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Quote: kirkhall "Its not took long for our fans to join in with the rest of other teams fans criticism has it? I was at the game so I didn't really see the incident and I have had to watch it back on TV on, by trial by Clarke, O'Connor and Arthur!!
Jamie is positioned just to the left of Reynolds before Bird comes in with his late high shot! ( oh yes it was, do you think a Leigh player, Hock or Acton for instance, would have been allowed to execute that assault on say, Luke Walsh?) Jamie is watching Bird all the way and when Ben Reynolds drops to the floor with Blood running from his nose, Jaime goes over and lifts Bird a few inches off the ground by his shirt and then, shoves him back down.
I believe Bird is playing 'dead' thinking he will get a card for his cynical late hit Ben and, Jamie thinks that too!!
It would be interesting if the 'concussed' Bird had anything to say to Jamie? I heard that he had?
It was Bird who instigated this 'collision' and, there was only one player injured in it! that's Ben Reynolds, with a busted nose
Its funny why you say that because i thought the same thing.

I didnt think Birds tackle was late to be honest, but it was unauthodox, high and at the time, I too thought he was feigning injury expecting a card for what he did.

But, Acton is a complete and UTTER TOOL !! This is where the club can do something about it, but they probably wont which is the main reason why our discipline is poor and we have the reputation to boot !!

He has been our best and most penetrating forward when available but what are the club doing about this ? Poor discipline has led to us losing at least 4 games and yet again this was one of them.

Win them 4 games ? Yes, I am sure everyone gets my drift !!!

Acton wont get 8 games as Bird will probably come clean. I believe he told Acton 'Where to go' when he came up to him so lets see what happens.

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Quote: brearley84 "it was shocking from acton

you can go picking up a player thats concussed, even worse he could have broken bones in his neck due to acton, luckily all involved is ok but could have been very different.

and yes bird is a dirty player but still cant defend acton on what he did deserves a big ban 6 games'"


But this is the area of contention, was Bird concussed ? did he look concussed walking off the field to you?
Is there a chance he 'could' have been faking it or not and, did you think Bird swivelled his body before impact to connect with Reynolds via his shoulder, Acton was right at the side of the incident and also, was it a Foul tackle?
I wonder what Ben Reynolds thought of Birds 'tackle' or, Jamie's action?

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Quote: kirkhall "But this is the area of contention, was Bird concussed ? did he look concussed walking off the field to you?
Is there a chance he 'could' have been faking it or not and, did you think Bird swivelled his body before impact to connect with Reynolds via his shoulder, Acton was right at the side of the incident and also, was it a Foul tackle?
I wonder what Ben Reynolds thought of Birds 'tackle' or, Jamie's action?'"


He passed the concussion assessment and was allowed back onto the pitch - almost just in time to get tangled with Crooks!

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Quote: Snowy "Its funny why you say that because i thought the same thing.

I didnt think Birds tackle was late to be honest, but it was unauthodox, high and at the time, I too thought he was feigning injury expecting a card for what he did.

But, Acton is a complete and UTTER TOOL !! This is where the club can do something about it, but they probably wont which is the main reason why our discipline is poor and we have the reputation to boot !!

He has been our best and most penetrating forward when available but what are the club doing about this ? Poor discipline has led to us losing at least 4 games and yet again this was one of them.

Win them 4 games ? Yes, I am sure everyone gets my drift !!!

Acton wont get 8 games as Bird will probably come clean. I believe he told Acton 'Where to go' when he came up to him so lets see what happens.'"


i've no dog in this fight, i dont particularly care for either player, but having just this second watch it, there is no way you can say it was a late challenge, it was a clash of heads, accidental, acton has then broke concussion and injury protocol going over and picking him up like that, which is a major major thing these days, He will definitely get teh book thrown at him.

the other thing that i haven't seen mentioned at all, was that he very nearly picked reynolds up as he walked back as well, he had hold of his shirt material and let go as if he realised he was bound to get in in the .

Very very stupid decision from him.

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Quote: kirkhall "But this is the area of contention, was Bird concussed ? did he look concussed walking off the field to you?
Is there a chance he 'could' have been faking it or not and, did you think Bird swivelled his body before impact to connect with Reynolds via his shoulder, Acton was right at the side of the incident and also, was it a Foul tackle?
I wonder what Ben Reynolds thought of Birds 'tackle' or, Jamie's action?'"


Doesn't matter if minutes later we find out Bird is fine, in those 2/3 secs immediately after the incident you don't know and this is why you should never touch a player that went down like that.

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What many seem to be ignoring on here, is that the tackle from Bird wasn't late, and it wasn't high.

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Indeed. Tackle wasn't late or high. Was a nasty clash of heads.

Acton obviously at fault.

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when bird attempts to tackle reynolds the ball has already been kicked,so it must be a late challenge,accidental or not.bird was making the challenge so was at fault for the injury to reynolds face,which would suggest that it was also high.everyone is ranting about what could have happened if he had a head injury,or concussion.but it turns out that he did not have either or he could not have retuned to the pitch.so acton is being charged with what could have happened,not what did happen.would this charge stick in a real court.i dont know,i am not a legal expert,but there are a lot who think they are on the social media at the moment.personally i like the way he plays the game,but he keeps letting himself and his team down with his lack of discipline.

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Quote: kirkhall "But this is the area of contention, was Bird concussed ? did he look concussed walking off the field to you?
Is there a chance he 'could' have been faking it or not and, did you think Bird swivelled his body before impact to connect with Reynolds via his shoulder, Acton was right at the side of the incident and also, was it a Foul tackle?
I wonder what Ben Reynolds thought of Birds 'tackle' or, Jamie's action?'"


yes he looked concussed he was laid out and not moving

the physios run on the pitch and hold them still incase of any neck injury... acton could have done serious damage doing what he did and taking things into his own hands.

i am discussing actons actions here not birds tackle on reynolds which was naughty too, the rfl should punish bird for that tackle if deemed so

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Quote: kirkhall "Welcome to our Forum, what club do you support? perhaps I can offer some opinions on your players!'"

My team is Leeds and ferres served 6 games and rightly so. Actons big hard man attitude has seen him in trouble far far too much for his age.

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Quote: brearley84 "it was shocking from acton

you can go picking up a player thats concussed, even worse he could have broken bones in his neck due to acton, luckily all involved is ok but could have been very different.

and yes bird is a dirty player but still cant defend acton on what he did deserves a big ban 6 games'"


Yes and if my Aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

Fed up of all this 'if he had a broken neck' rubbish, he didn't, his arms and legs were moving, you don't need to be a doctor to work that out.

He also wasn't concussed, as the head test and Catalans doctor proved. So essentially Jamie grabbed the shirt of a player on the floor who went down to avoid a sin binning.

What if birds late and high challenge had hit Ben in the temple rather than his nose, he could've had brain damage or worse?

Now don't get me wrong it's poor sportsmanship but wow, some people, including our own supporters, need to get a grip.

It's the mock outrage and online histrionics that will determine the length of his ban rather than his actions

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Quote: davo1979 "Yes and if my Aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

Fed up of all this 'if he had a broken neck' rubbish, he didn't, his arms and legs were moving, you don't need to be a doctor to work that out.

He also wasn't concussed, as the head test and Catalans doctor proved. So essentially Jamie grabbed the shirt of a player on the floor who went down to avoid a sin binning.

What if birds late and high challenge had hit Ben in the temple rather than his nose, he could've had brain damage or worse?

Now don't get me wrong it's poor sportsmanship but wow, some people, including our own supporters, need to get a grip.

It's the mock outrage and online histrionics that will determine the length of his ban rather than his actions'"


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Quote: davo1979 "Yes and if my Aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

Fed up of all this 'if he had a broken neck' rubbish, he didn't, his arms and legs were moving, you don't need to be a doctor to work that out.

He also wasn't concussed, as the head test and Catalans doctor proved. So essentially Jamie grabbed the shirt of a player on the floor who went down to avoid a sin binning.

What if birds late and high challenge had hit Ben in the temple rather than his nose, he could've had brain damage or worse?

Now don't get me wrong it's poor sportsmanship but wow, some people, including our own supporters, need to get a grip.

It's the mock outrage and online histrionics that will determine the length of his ban rather than his actions'"


Some very valid points put over there, but do you honestly think Acton was even contemplating the situation at the time
Hope there is a good outcome from our point of view but I have my doubts icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif

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Quote: ColD "Some very valid points put over there, but do you honestly think Acton was even contemplating the situation at the time
Hope there is a good outcome from our point of view but I have my doubts

Me too Col. I can't see how he can get out of this one. At the end of the day, his actions simply can't be defended, whatever their motivation, or the state of Bird's health.

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Quote: Alan "Me too Col. I can't see how he can get out of this one. At the end of the day, his actions simply can't be defended, whatever their motivation, or the state of Bird's health.'"


Thats his weakness,he still needs to learn to pipe that aggression with ball in hand. Not continually off the ball.

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