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Quote: SaleSlim "6 coaches? We only have 50 fans remember... only just enough to fill 1 coach. Can't disagree with most of this.

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Quote: atomic "Come on Slim,you are in a position in the league you can now boast about..How many scapegoats did your club go through to get there?

Shaun McRae 2007–11
Matt Parish 2011
Phil Veivers 2011–13
Alan Hunte 2013
Brian Noble 2013–14
Iestyn Harris 2014–15
Ian Watson 2016-'"



I would gladly trade their league position for ours

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Derek says on Twitter that Jukes is staying

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Quote: Early Bath "Derek says on Twitter that Jukes is staying'"


Well I hope he sticks to it, anything other than bottom was always a bonus for me ( not that we won't end up there mind)
Staying up is classed as success in my eyes, pray to god it's not the MPG

Some people need a reality check, we really are not that far off, discipline and ball retention and there are some wins to come before the break

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Quote: ColD "Well I hope he sticks to it, anything other than bottom was always a bonus for me ( not that we won't end up there mind)
Staying up is classed as success in my eyes, pray to god it's not the MPG

Some people need a reality check, we really are not that far off, discipline and ball retention and there are some wins to come before the break'"


So, are we any good or not? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: GUBRATS "So you're applying are you , don't hold your breath'"



We will see when announced

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Quote: ColD "Some people need a reality check, we really are not that far off, discipline and ball retention and there are [isome wins to come[/i before the break'"


"Some wins" Col ?

Where are they coming from ?

Hull FC away ? .... Cas at home ? Leeds away ? Wigan at home or Widnes away ?

Don't get me wrong Col, your faith is admirable, I wish I shared it (& did for a while), but with the likes of KR getting Justin Carney & going after Brough, coupled with the brain fart of allowing Ridyard to go & help a direct Q8's rival with a halves crisis, that faith is severely tested.

I will of course take my place in the NS & sing my head off throughout every game, but if it comes to the MPG, I fear the very worst.

Will Derek *who has been more than generous & devoted to the cause* have the stomach for another fight ???

& will the RFL close the shop 'again' once we are out ?

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Quote: Ste100Centurions ""Some wins" Col ?

Where are they coming from ?

Hull FC away ? .... Cas at home ? Leeds away ? Wigan at home or Widnes away ?

Don't get me wrong Col, your faith is admirable, I wish I shared it (& did for a while), but with the likes of KR getting Justin Carney & going after Brough, coupled with the brain fart of allowing Ridyard to go & help a direct Q8's rival with a halves crisis, that faith is severely tested.

I will of course take my place in the NS & sing my head off throughout every game, but if it comes to the MPG, I fear the very worst.

Will Derek *who has been more than generous & devoted to the course* have the stomach for another fight ???
I'm with you Ste,I'm not sure where our next win is coming from, we have only 3 home games left,Wigan , Cas,and Salford,and difficult away games at Hull,Leeds,Warrington,Widnes,Hudds,and Cats, folk keep saying Widnes are THE worst team currently in SL, but they have beaten us at the LSV,for me can at best see possible wins against Salford and Widnes,but at best that will still keep us in 11th spot.Again I hope I'm wrong and we pick up more points,what worries me is the make up of the middle 8s and us getting 2 trips to France,and maybe a trip to Hull KR.
& will the RFL close the shop 'again' once we are out ?'"


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Quote: Cokey "So, are we any good or not?
Somewhere in between icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Ste100Centurions ""Some wins" Col ?

Where are they coming from ?

Hull FC away ? .... Cas at home ? Leeds away ? Wigan at home or Widnes away ?

Don't get me wrong Col, your faith is admirable, I wish I shared it (& did for a while), but with the likes of KR getting Justin Carney & going after Brough, coupled with the brain fart of allowing Ridyard to go & help a direct Q8's rival with a halves crisis, that faith is severely tested.

I will of course take my place in the NS & sing my head off throughout every game, but if it comes to the MPG, I fear the very worst.

Will Derek *who has been more than generous & devoted to the cause* have the stomach for another fight ???

& will the RFL close the shop 'again' once we are out ?'"


Widnes, Hudds away, Salford @home - we've run em close twice

Carney is a gamble, wouldn't imagine Brough is going anywhere

Not getting walloped in any games, there is enough in the current squad to grind the wins out - and I expect us to strengthen further for when it matters

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It won't make one blind bit of difference what players are brought in,unless the technical discipline is addressed.
They have become progressively ill-disciplined since the loss at Wakey. Injuries,players out of position and bad calls from Refs all add to the frustration.

However,the lack of confidence is created by ill-discipline. I'm not saying the coaching staff are not working on it. I'm saying whatever is in place to combat it, isn't working and getting progressively worse.

Sort the discipline out and the confidence will flood back as will the points and defence. If it's left to dwindle with no immediate improvement,then there is no choice but to place someone in there who can sort it.

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Quote: atomic "It won't make one blind bit of difference what players are brought in,unless the technical discipline is addressed.
They have become progressively ill-disciplined since the loss at Wakey. Injuries,players out of position and bad calls from Refs all add to the frustration.

However,the lack of confidence is created by ill-discipline. I'm not saying the coaching staff are not working on it. I'm saying whatever is in place to combat it, isn't working and getting progressively worse.

Sort the discipline out and the confidence will flood back as will the points and defence. If it's left to dwindle with no immediate improvement,then there is no choice but to place someone in there who can sort it.'"

Finally, someone with some sense. Only I'd go a bit further. I'd get rid of Neil now. Paul Cooke as well. They've had a fair crack now and things are getting worse.

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Quote: TMan24tm "Finally, someone with some sense. Only I'd go a bit further. I'd get rid of Neil now. Paul Cooke as well. They've had a fair crack now and things are getting worse.'"


I dont agree with some of the team selections Jukes and Co make however, I dont know them and I dont the know players only, what I see on the Pitch. When you refer to our discipline, do you mean the amount of penalties we concede or the amount of times we knock someones head off?
Unfortunately Referees can give a penalty any time it suits them, irrespective of whether its deserved!
Whilst Adam Higson's Red Card was throughly deserved, the same Referee the week before only penalised Chris Hill for using his elbow followed, by an Head Butt icon_eek.gif He didnt think it even warranted 10 mins in the bin icon_eek.gif Our friends on the Reveiw Panel decided a Caution would suffice too icon_mad.gif Cant imagine any Leigh player would have been treated like Chris!
I thought Higsons Offence was a shocker however, so too was England & Wigan Captain Sean O'Loughlins tackle on Wakfield's Anniken? Anniken was serious injured and fortunately, Gaz O'Brian was only shook up!
I watched thse two tackles over and I cant see why one offence brings a 5 match ban and the other only warrants 1 match eusa_think.gif Strangely, the the same Referee officiated in all three games these offences occurred!
Back to the Coaches, its taken them long enough but our Halfbacks now are looking more threatnening and, as their understanding increases so too will our plays! Unfortunately messers Tickle,Burr and Hopkins have committed more than their fair of loose carries thus, spoiling good opportunities. Having Cory Paterson back is a massive boost for the team and Coaches, lets hope we can gain a win soon!
Coaches must be allowed to go to the end of the season whatever happens!

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Quote: kirkhall "I dont agree with some of the team selections Jukes and Co make however, I dont know them and I dont the know players only, what I see on the Pitch. When you refer to our discipline, do you mean the amount of penalties we concede or the amount of times we knock someones head off?
Unfortunately Referees can give a penalty any time it suits them, irrespective of whether its deserved!
Whilst Adam Higson's Red Card was throughly deserved, the same Referee the week before only penalised Chris Hill for using his elbow followed, by an Head Butt 5.4794921875:5
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