If you haven't read the full thread Thrush don't bother with your drivel.

I didn't need to, because I can gauge where it's going to have gone. You're trying to save a sinking ship, start again, and hopefully in 18 months you'll be straight.
As for my drivel, at least I know the rules of TGG and don't claim referees have biases.
It's okay, not everyone can be smart

the sinking ship will be saved providing we get an average on 1800 minimum. The club have budgeted for the league games anything extra is a bonus. Already the fax/Leeds game must have made us a few quid.

And thats great although somewhat fortunate, if you drew London probably a different story. If you cant average 1800 then again, you must budget accordingly, if that means Chp1 then so be it.

Have you any idea how patronising you sound when you metaphorically pat us all on the head and tell us to run along and let the grown ups take over?

No one is stopping any member of the Touchdown club from joining our group if they feel they have something to offer but I'm afraid you'd have to sit around the table with us plebs and 'talk us through' the grown up stuff.

well last years average was 2400ish, so the club have gone as low as they can. At the moment were averaging under 1800 in the league but that always picks up towards the back end.

Plus nrc v batley should attract at least 2500

If having a realistic view of where the club is at makes me patronising then so be it, maybe one day soon you'll agree with me.

The club has to be run as a viable business and volunteers can only do so much - to move forward we should start getting the right people targetted and involved instead of waiting for their approach, as per Mohammed and the mountain!

My view is no different than how the club would treat the players if we got into Super League, ie thanks for your service now we need better players than you. Way of the world i'm afraid.

So (and these are serious questions),

Will the Touchdown club be willing to cover all the bases I pointed out earlier?

Will they be doing this voluntarily?

If they are doing it voluntarily, don't they just become volunteers?


Most importantly.....

Why aren't they already doing it?

Yeah - we'd have been planning for a semi-final against Wire!!

The flip side being 4,000 Leigh fans turned up knowing the team would be beat.
Admitedly trying to market the Championship is difficult as the league is viewed as unattractive and ambitions cannot be realised as at the moment Promotion and Relgation doesn't happen - I'm not sure that will remain in place as the game looks to be at another crossroads.
The amount of people who live within 15-20 mins drive of Leigh is huge - its a huge area to tap into.
The club needs to be in the schools selling sport as the social benefit it is - heck we have a state of the art RL stadium second to none and yet I'd imagine the kids still hang around on corners - get the schools to buy into a community and the youngsters are the future fans, not many swop clubs down the line.

This season Leigh has been forced to turn a corner but every new initiative put in place MUST have a 5 year lifespan, way too many boom & bust ideas not given time to gell have occured at Leigh.
Lets allocate a certain type of objective to a person - if thats a volunteer fine , equally if its a professional then fine - its needs a accountable trail.
For instance if programme sales are down I would approach Alan and ask him why and then sit down and go through what we are doing wrong - what could be improved (do we sell it in Town centre shops for example, do schools, collegues get any etc, etc)*Using Alan as a example - NOT saying sales are down BTW.

I actually feel Leigh are pointing in the right direction but have a long way to go off the field but for the first time in years I actually think the club has realised its 'sat on its hands' for years and with quite a bit of on field success have achieved very little off field.
We need to make Leigh the best club in our league and the place to be on matchday - ALL parties have to pull together or back off, argueing is healthy but if it drags on it achieves nothing.

1,800 is a realistic aim now (thats getting on double what a lot of clubs get in this league), however lets use that as a minimum and start to aim high - the potential is huge , we just need to realise it.

Mish , no disrespect here , although I just know it will be taken 'personally ' , the club could quite easilly operate without any of the tasks you highlighted , without income , it wont

The O/P was , how will the club finance itself , a kids club, internet radio and a match programme wont fund the shortfall the club will have , they are all great positives , and all the work put into them is appreciated , but ultimatley we need ' income ' lots of it

They obviously aren't!! We were in the ground before half seven on Friday, and couldn't get hold of a programme for love nor money!!

Don't suppose anyone has a 'spare'??

I actually used the TD as an example of people with business acumen on the clubs doorstep who by definition of being corporate members clearly possess the key ingredients, ie they are fans of the club and in the main their businesses will fund their memberships.

Sometimes you have more success by asking people to get involved rather than waiting for them to put their hand up and of course they wouldn't be paid, however more difficult to say no in those circumstances!