Him and Thomason are better than some of the muppets like Roby,Hicks et al.

Barty i never said there was anything wrong with Sandy hair , obviously you have never seen or met me ?As my hair was very Red at one time , though now it is much thinner on top .

He and Ian Smith (Video ref) were involved in a real 'cock up' when Sheffield scored their first try at Leigh a couple of weeks ago in the TV game. Stokes awarded Sheffield a penalty on our line, they took a very quick tap and Stokes went 'upstairs' for a decision on the grounding. Stokes assured Smith that he was happy with the quick penalty take. Why then would Stokes say 'woh woh woh' to the Sheffield player and actually tried to pull him back. If the Sheffield player had been a horse he would have stopped immediately. Smith's explanation was puzzling, he admitted he couldnt tell whether it was a try or not. Whatever - Sheffield were hammered in the end. Mr.Stokes prefers to be described as 'strawberry blonde' rather than a redhead by the way.

Here i am praising Mr Stokes before the game but i feel her had a shocker today , let Batley get away with to many high shots , and then was very harsh sin binning Littler , it may sound like sour grapes , but i felt he murdered us in penalties .

Mr Stokes seemed to give you plenty of cheap yardage in the first half ,admitted you played well in the second half , but Gardner bombed a certain try , and i felt his other try was not offside , given these 2 incidents againt you maybe the result could have been different , as for Littler how did he seem edgy ?

26 20 strong wind in our favour 15 mins to go playing downhill who would you have backed ?

Not the ref who lost us the game. Just a bad day.

Well we will have to get over it. One or two bad decisions by the lads cost us today not the ref.

Frank in the first half he gave them to many penalities , you didnt see them , because you where wandering round like a lost soul , watch the game , though i agree a couple of our lads had off days , as ive said roll on Thursday , Charlie will be at POR , to cheer the lads on .

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Not sure I agree witht he cheap yardage but I respect your view. As supporters we have differing views, and just because we disagree with the ref, and see decisions differently, it does not mean they were wrong decisions. As for Littler, I just felt he never seemed settled throughout the match that's all.
Going back to Gardner bombing a certain try, well ofcourse if he hadn't it might have been different, but the fact is he did. We can all go back to what ifs and nearly's!

I think what ultimately made the difference today was not Mr Stokes, but the fact that we have several squad members coming back after lay-offs, namely Walmesley and Scott, and so were fresh, whereas you undoubtedly have serious injury worries which might take their toll.

Littler was sinbinned for quite a blatant "chicken wing" tackle, he nearly wrenched Walmsley's shoulder out of the socket. Watch the DVD back if you've any doubt.

Ask a neutral fan. There were a good few there from Fev Fav Wakey and I saw one with a Leeds shirt on.

We lost because of 3 bad errors in the last 15 minutes' not because of the ref.

Won't mention the pass to Gardner which was ruled forward or his knock on with the line open.

Btw just 2 incidents not a go at Gardner. The lost ball in the tackle which put them 10 up and then the last two tries.

Not good enough on the day. Sh1t happens.

We were poor Today make no mistake but two crucial mistakes just took the game away with us.

The knock on at the back of the scrum in the first half that led to a Batley try just left us that little to much to do IMO.

Gardner dropping the ball with the try line begging at 26: 20 just summed the day up.

What is obvious to me is that we played all the game with effectively only one creative player in Riddy. As much as I admire young Brierely's support play he is unable (yet) to stamp any authourity on the game as all good 7's should be able to.

McNally is a 7 by trade. Move him there. Let Ryan link up at full back where his pace could be devastating.

And finally, only a clown could blame that defeat on the referee.

Littler was banned for a nasty and uncalled for 'chicken wing' tackle on Walmsley. If its referred to the disciplinary panel then he'll be facing a few games on the sidelines.

the ref was not good but we were not at our best, so its wasnt the ref s fault, he was very picky on some things though and seemed to ignore offside altogether. I hope its not him Thursday however.