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How do you know he hadn't warned them beforehand?
On the video I didn't see him give the signal for a differential penalty.
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| Quote: Leyther_till_death "How do you know he hadn't warned them beforehand?
On the video I didn't see him give the signal for a differential penalty.'"
Are all infringements from a scrum not differential penalties  |
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No, some are full penalties which you can kick for goal from.
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[quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh.  [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: Leyther_till_death "How do you know he hadn't warned them beforehand?
[sizeOn the video I didn't see him give the signal for a differential penalty[/size.'"
Thats the point  Why whould he signal for one when he didn't GIVE a differential penalty!! He should have because not binding at the scrum should result in a differential penalty. |
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The referee dropped an almighty clanger which altered the result of the game, he even had the arrogance to ignore the advice of the fourth official, he hadn't got the bottle to admit his mistake when he knew that he was totally responsible for the result of the game. That, on top of his handling of the elbow tackle shows he is not fit for purpose and should be sacked before he does any more damage to the game.
Clarification[i1. In respect of misconduct at the scrum other than foul play or
the use of offensive or obscene language a Referee shall
award a differential penalty which differs only from a penalty
kick in that a goal cannot be scored from it. The differential
penalty applies to all players, even those outside the scrum,
who should be penalised where they offend. A full penalty is
awarded for an offence which occurs before the scrum is
properly formed.[/i
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[size=100:inve33bl][quote="Dave Lister":inve33bl]I reckon Salford's fans are the friendliest i've come across and haven't got a bad word to say about them[/quote:inve33bl][/size:inve33bl]
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| Quote: wbk666 "both hits deserved to be penalised, 1st one with a red card. 2nd one just a penalty.
oh well thems the breaks ![]()
The first was a shocker but the second seemed to have malicious intent - the blond centre seemed to hit him high on purpose and it's only the fact that he's obviously a bit soft that meant he didn't rip his head off?!
As for the penalty at the scrum, it didn't even look like a penalty-worthy offence. The error he made in allowing the kick at goal was a disgrace but ignoring the fourth official who tried to correct his error (assuming that's what he was doing) should mean the bloke loses his whistle permanently.
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| Quote: reffy "The referee dropped an almighty clanger which altered the result of the game, he even had the arrogance to ignore the advice of the fourth official, he hadn't got the bottle to admit his mistake when he knew that he was totally responsible for the result of the game. That, on top of his handling of the elbow tackle shows he is not fit for purpose and should be sacked before he does any more damage to the game.
Clarification[i1. In respect of misconduct at the scrum other than foul play or
the use of offensive or obscene language a Referee shall
award a differential penalty which differs only from a penalty
kick in that a goal cannot be scored from it. The differential
penalty applies to all players, even those outside the scrum,
who should be penalised where they offend. A full penalty is
awarded for an offence which occurs before the scrum is
properly formed.[/i'"
Thats all fine and dandy , dandy and fine ( my bestest Stan and Olly ) but watching what happened on that video I've no sympathy for STANingly s loose forward , who'd give a lazy penalty away under the sticks for bollox like that when your in front and got the ball with a minute left ( the tit )  |
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Referees are like women, they make snap decisions and never reverse them.
[b]Littlerich wrote[/b] Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.:simpsons/PDT13.gif |
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| Quote: reffy "Make your own mind up with these two but I wouldn't let the ref anywhere near a rugby field.
Wasn't Jason Donohue banned sine die for a tackle like that?
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| Quote: reffy "The referee dropped an almighty clanger which altered the result of the game, he even had the arrogance to ignore the advice of the fourth official, he hadn't got the bottle to admit his mistake when he knew that he was totally responsible for the result of the game. That, on top of his handling of the elbow tackle shows he is not fit for purpose and should be sacked before he does any more damage to the game.
Clarification[i1. In respect of misconduct at the scrum other than foul play or
the use of offensive or obscene language a Referee shall
award a differential penalty which differs only from a penalty
kick in that a goal cannot be scored from it. The differential
penalty applies to all players, even those outside the scrum,
who should be penalised where they offend. A full penalty is
awarded for an offence which occurs before the scrum is
properly formed.[/i'"
Actually it's open to interpretation as until the scrum is properly formed then a full penalty can be given. If the lad had not binded correctly then a full scrum was NOT properly formed.
You can see this in ruleSection 12 Pushing (4)
It is permissible for forwards to push once the scrum has been correctly formed but if it moves an appreciable distance to the disadvantage of any one team before the ball is put in then the Referee shall order the scrum to reform in its original position.'"
Therefore he didn't drop a clanger as it's to do with interpretation. Plus the fourth official has no say on the running of the game.
Quote: reffy "Enforce Laws 2. The Referees shall enforce the Laws of the Game and may impose penalties for any deliberate breach of the Laws. He shall be the sole judge on matters of fact except those relating to touch and touch in-goal (see para. 11 below).'"
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| Quote: rob_a "Read this has comments from players of both teams who confirm no warning was given.
So what? it's the ref's job to give decisions, not coach teams through it. The Stanningley lad doesn't bind, it's a correct penalty call. It should indeed be a differential pen, unless someone's said something, in which case all the ref's done is not give a second signal. But even if the ref's got it wrong, it happens. Given West Cumbria scored 23 other points, I'm assuming some of the Stanningley lads made errors during the match.
Having a pop at a volunteer ref in an amateur game on t'interweb doesn't help anyone.
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Brad Fitler "If the ref's decision decides your game. You haven't done enough prior."
Referees are like women, they make snap decisions and never reverse them.
[b]Littlerich wrote[/b] Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.:simpsons/PDT13.gif |
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Joe I'm a volunteer ref myself. I wasn't having a pop was just pointing out comments made by players involved in the game
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The penalty was awarded for having more than 7 backs - hence it is a full penalty (the scrum was never formed correctly and therefore a differential penalty would be incorrect). The players had been warned on several occassions.
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| Whats your opinion of the first incident Mr Cobb |
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Joe, is he one of your proteges? You have tried to excuse one part of his actions by giving a totally nonsensical reason. There were not seven backs the loose forward had his hands on the second row, the referees signalled "not binding" and made no reference to the number in the scrum. He got the offence correct but the penalty wrong.
If you want to retain any credibility as a development officer then take your head out of your backside and admit that he cocked up and while you are doing so explain his decision not to shift the thug.
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