77 posts suggest that there is good interest in the PPA and the club's response to the problem. I feel that bridges have been burnt. I would like to remind others that the PPA doesn't only include the players from "71 and "82 but lots of Leigh lads who thought it was a privilege to play for their hometown club, many who are still carrying injuries in their early 30s. You can't start a new PPA without the original players.
I don't get it, whats better than seeing Mick Martyn at the bar after/ before a game. Use the PPA to remind people of the clubs great history.

If how can the club 'use' the PPA if the PPA are refusing to speak the club, even though their gripes are with previous administrations or not even the club at all?

I do know that some of the "younger" past players have been asked their views and how they can help solve the problem. Maybe this is the way forward to get everyone onboard.
Remember that these players show huge respect to the players of the original PPA and to all players who have put on the Leigh shirt.

Respect is a two-way street and as it was the PPA who went to the press then what respect does that show to the rugby club?

Not only that, it was the PPA who said that there was no chance of reconciliation whilst the club have been bending over backwards to try and resolve the issue.

I'd like to ask Strongintharm how he thinks the issue could be resolved when the current PPA won't even sit down at the table to sort it out?

I don't know why they went to the press. I do know that there has been a problem since we left Hilton Park. I do know that both parties have tried to solve the problem in the past. Maybe that was the only way left for the PPA to get their message / grievances across. Please, when talking about ex players, use the word respect carefully.

There are two sides to most stories.

I don't know the root of the problem but I would like it resolved.

Will someone post exactly what the PPA want and which of those problems are capable of being resolved by the club or the LSV or both.

When I know that I shall make up my own mind.

I know our club is in a very precarious financial position btw.

Unfortunately that's becoming all too apparent!

This really needs sorting soon - do we not still have a 'club ambassador' in the guise of AJM can he not mediate or is he just as miffed??

At Hilton Park PPA passes were used by non players to gain entrance, I witnessed this myself and was told of the situation by stewards , so PPA members were putting stewards in difficult positions by lending out their memberships, this was known by the club management, it was not going to continue at the LSV

If the PPA cannot or will not accept the different circumstances and the difficult financial situation the club are currently in, then they will never be happy, if that is the case, it will be the PPA s loss rather than the clubs

The club have suggested sitting down and discussing what they can offer , if the PPA dont want that, then that will be the end of it

Succinct

Well if past players are doing that they must realise the club needs as many paying speccies as it can get.

No doubt we will get a response from a member of the PPA to resolve this on here ?

On the other hand we could issue passes with the past players photograph on it would that resolve the problem ?

PPA passes have photographs attached!
Don't bring up isolated incidents and lets keep to the issue:
Should we have a PPA?
How would a PPA benefit the club?
I'm sure, that with common sense, this can get resolved. Please remember that members of the PPA include ex players in their 30s and not just "the Greats".

Well if that is what caused the problem then every past player is given a pass with their photograph on and stewards allow them personally to go to in any bar area they want ?

Wouldn't that easily resolve this ? What is the problem if you have a steward who says that pic doesn't look like you then another person arbitrates.

Pics on membership cards work at the gym I attend. Oh and you get a fresh card with a new pic every 12 months.

That doesn't mean they were tickets issued free of charge by the club. The hospitality tickets could have already been paid for and some people didn't/couldn't attend. So the lads you saw could have been handing out tickets that had been paid for.

Keith I am reffering to Hilton Park several years ago, it was discussed at boardroom level, it wasn't rife but it happened, we decided not to embarass the PPA by making it public, we instead let it go but instructed the stewards to monitor it

As for the LSV, as you full well know, it isn't the club that controls stewarding or entry to the bars there

But simply put, you cannot resolve anything if only one side is willing to talk