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| Quote: jonny the leyther "Any evidence to start saying people are lying?'"
That was kinda the point in the first place - why would anyone come on here and start questionning whether AT has actually put any money into the club or not, or whether he has left the club without any debts. He wasn't expressing a different opinion, he was being offensive. And, as you asked, does he have any evidence to start saying AT & AR are lying??
Not sure I can really be accused of being in a "clic" (sic) when I'm not a Leyther and don't know anyone off this board (to the best of my knowledge) personally?!
Not sure that "slating" someone who clearly has a personal axe to grind can be classed as a new fan who is potentially being put off either?!
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| I’m quite sure if anyone buys a share in the club you will get all the answers you need.
We all have a choice either clap or sing thanks to AT or don’t, I know what I’ll be doing.
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| Ill give him a big hug like I always do when I see him
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| Quote: Dick Jones "Ill give him a big hug like I always do when I see him
Well i won't be going that far Lynda, but i will give him a very loud cheer and applause thats for sure.
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| There are no secrets with a limited company and its finances.
Everything that has been claimed about how much AT has put in and what the debts are (or were) to him can be found at companies house for less than the cost of a LSV pint.
If those debts were to any other party (such as a bank or HMRC) then a) they would have shut the door on the club long ago, and b) they would never let the debts reach that figure in the first place.
Again, thats no secret, it's there in black and white if you can be bothered looking.
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| Quote: Alexs Dad "There are no secrets with a limited company and its finances.
Everything that has been claimed about how much AT has put in and what the debts are (or were) to him can be found at companies house for less than the cost of a LSV pint.
If those debts were to any other party (such as a bank or HMRC) then a) they would have shut the door on the club long ago, and b) they would never let the debts reach that figure in the first place.
Again, thats no secret, it's there in black and white if you can be bothered looking.'"
So you're back then , have a good time ?
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| Come on Steve play the game you've scuppered a 'good' rumour monger smear campaign with some truths and spoiled some peoples fun
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| Quote: Starbug "So you're back then , have a good time ?
Still here mate, just chilling by the pool and reading some of the rubbish on here.
Do you reckon they will have the Fax game on Fox Soccer??
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| Quote: Alexs Dad "Everything that has been claimed about how much AT has put in and what the debts are (or were) to him can be found at companies house for less than the cost of a LSV pint.'"
To be fair, the amount that AT put into the club was probably only marginally more than the cost of a LSV pint?!
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| Quote: Fatboys Limb "To be fair, the amount that AT put into the club was probably only marginally more than the cost of a LSV pint?!
But less than it will cost at Barton
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| Quote: Alexs Dad "There are no secrets with a limited company and its finances.
Everything that has been claimed about how much AT has put in and what the debts are (or were) to him can be found at companies house for less than the cost of a LSV pint.
If those debts were to any other party (such as a bank or HMRC) then a) they would have shut the door on the club long ago, and b) they would never let the debts reach that figure in the first place.
Again, thats no secret, it's there in black and white if you can be bothered looking.'"
I dont believe anybody would be stupid enough to belive that the kind of information disclosed to HMRC and displayed on there website will be a truly acurate assesment of the clubs current fortunes.
Thats why accountants are worth their weight in gold they can polish the preverbial turd.
Lets Hope when the dust settles and the big picture becomes clear we are as debt free as AR made us out to be prior to his sudden departure. If we are it seems we will be the only one of ATs intrests that is debt free.
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| You wouldn't happen to work for one of Arthurs companies would you because you seem a bit bitter to me?
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| Or someone who is owed money by one of AT's companies by the sound of it?
Your venomous posts are becoming a little clearer now.
Why not just be honest from the off?!
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| Quote: leythkeith "I dont believe anybody would be stupid enough to belive that the kind of information disclosed to HMRC and displayed on there website will be a truly acurate assesment of the clubs current fortunes.
Thats why accountants are worth their weight in gold they can polish the preverbial turd.
Lets Hope when the dust settles and the big picture becomes clear we are as debt free as AR made us out to be prior to his sudden departure. If we are it seems we will be the only one of ATs intrests that is debt free.'"
Ok, I really should not be entertaining someone who clearly has an axe to grind.
Companies House records are ficticious and you are correct.
The £1.4m 'debt' (as it was to the 2009 accounts) is owed to the tooth fairy. Or perhaps Father Christmas. Or maybe the Easter Bunny.
It must be them, because if it was anyone real, other than AT himself, they'd have called the administrators in long ago wanting some money back.
Or maybe the club has miraculously bucked the worlds banking trends on lending and are sat on a £1.4m interest free loan from RBS....maybe they've not paid HMRC for years and they've just ignored closing us down and gone for a dozen football clubs instead.
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| Quote: Alexs Dad "Ok, I really should not be entertaining someone who clearly has an axe to grind.
Companies House records are ficticious and you are correct.
The £1.4m 'debt' (as it was to the 2009 accounts) is owed to the tooth fairy. Or perhaps Father Christmas. Or maybe the Easter Bunny.
It must be them, because if it was anyone real, other than AT himself, they'd have called the administrators in long ago wanting some money back.
Or maybe the club has miraculously bucked the worlds banking trends on lending and are sat on a £1.4m interest free loan from RBS....maybe they've not paid HMRC for years and they've just ignored closing us down and gone for a dozen football clubs instead.'"
Some folk dont want to listen to simple facts Alex.
The reasons we lose so much are the concern, funding the gap whilst we renegotaiate and restructure is vital.
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