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Quote: mapleyther "I don't think the spear tackle was a red card. However the late high tackle on McNally was. 1-1'"



If that spear tackle isn't a red card, then I don't know what is.

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Quote: LeythIg "If that spear tackle isn't a red card, then I don't know what is.'"


Exactly.

I wonder if people would have a different opinion if [ithey[/i, themselves, had been on the receiving end of a "tackle" like that...

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Quote: ant7t2 "Exactly.

I wonder if people would have a different opinion if [ithey[/i, themselves, had been on the receiving end of a "tackle" like that...'"


My opinion is the same as what I said before, thats speaking as someone who has been on both sides of that situation.

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It wasn't a spear tackle, he was lifted and rolled over onto his back it didn't look great but a spear tackle involves lifting the player vertically and his head being the first contact with the floor, neither happened.

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Spear tackle or not ,it's still an offence to lift a player whereby his legs go higher than his waist ,which in this case happened , making the Refs decision of a Red card the correct one.

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Quote: charlie caroli "Spear tackle or not ,it's still an offence to lift a player whereby his legs go higher than his waist ,which in this case happened , making the Refs decision of a Red card the correct one.'"


Ian, I agree with you on this one. Also did you see stringer patting his players after that incident?

That was close to being very very serious, and the red card was the right decision. I hope the disciplinary sends out a strong message that these kind of tackles are dangerous and will not be tolerated.

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The whistle had gone for a Sheffield penalty about 2/3 seconds before and Aston continued after the whistle with a deliberate tip tackle. Because the whistle had gone the original penalty stood. IMO Aston was attempting to cause injury and deserves his red.

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Quote: Leigh Sappers "IMO Aston was attempting to cause injury and deserves his red.'"


Agreed.

Tom Armstrong did something similar against Salford and got a ban. Although that yesterday was way worse than Tom's, IMO.

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Quote: reffy "It wasn't a spear tackle, he was lifted and rolled over onto his back it didn't look great but a spear tackle involves lifting the player vertically and his head being the first contact with the floor, neither happened.'"


He wasn't rolled over onto his back. First contact with the floor was back of the head/neck. Aston tipped him upside down and drove him to the ground without making enough attempt to correct the position.

Definite red, fact that people think otherwise is astonishing

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Quote: LeythIg "He wasn't rolled over onto his back. First contact with the floor was back of the head/neck. Aston tipped him upside down and drove him to the ground without making enough attempt to correct the position.

Definite red, fact that people think otherwise is astonishing'"


Haha!

Get used to that kind of thought patten on here. Although I am sure some do it just to be awkward.

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Quote: Leigh Sappers "The whistle had gone for a Sheffield penalty about 2/3 seconds before and Aston continued after the whistle with a deliberate tip tackle. Because the whistle had gone the original penalty stood. IMO Aston was attempting to cause injury and deserves his red.'"


Think you will find they were given a scrum for a knock on, remember thinking at the time I couldn't understand why it hadn't been overturned for a penalty to us

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Quote: ColD "Think you will find they were given a scrum for a knock on, remember thinking at the time I couldn't understand why it hadn't been overturned for a penalty to us'"

Thats right I stand corrected,

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First offence always stands IIRC.

Definitely a text book sending off, but I'm not convinced there was intent. The rule book says that it's a sending off, so it's a sending off. My first reaction to the Sheffield players backslapping was that they were reacting like any players do to a big hit. Nothing I've seen changes that view.

The stiff arm though? That was a definite straight red too. He can consider himself lucky on that one.

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Quote: reffy "It wasn't a spear tackle, he was lifted and rolled over onto his back it didn't look great but a spear tackle involves lifting the player vertically and his head being the first contact with the floor, neither happened.'"


Sorry reffy,Its a spear tackle,the head contact to floor is behind the on-coming player..Not what your seeing..But the TJ does see it.

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Doesn't look like his back to me.

Would agree the red would have been a bit harsh just for the tackle, it was the fact the ball had long since come loose, the tackle was complete and the ref had stopped the game before the spear tackle was put in. Deserves the red.

The high shot that got Gregg stretchered off he holds his hands up straight away but he definitely went for Gregg after the ball had gone. Think he intended to take him out but not high, ended up getting him right across the neck which is why it was so bad. Deserved a red.

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