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Beaumont needs to learn to not feed the trolls. In fact, he should just quit Twitter.

As for paying off the agreement, I hope he knows what he's doing, and not just letting his own ego get in the way of managing the clubs finances.

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Quote: LeythIg "Beaumont needs to learn to not feed the trolls.'"


Agreed. Beaumont is well known for not letting falsehoods go unchallenged, that's just going to attract trolls making deliberately absurd statements to get him going. Don't think he needs to quit twitter, does post some good things & it's good for those involved with the club to engage with fans, just needs to laugh off the idiots, arguing with them is what they want.

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Quote: LeythIg "Beaumont needs to learn to not feed the trolls. In fact, he should just quit Twitter.

As for paying off the agreement, I hope he knows what he's doing, and not just letting his own ego get in the way of managing the clubs finances.[/quo

The compromise is between Gareth and Salford, Gareths contract is between him and Leigh, should he play he will breach his compromise. If Derek decides to personally cover that it has nothing to do with LCRLFC finances imo, and that is what Derek is saying. Marwan obviously pi$$ed him off by declaring Gareth wouldn't be playing, the same as he pi$$ed folk off by announcing Gareth had signed for Leigh before Leigh announced it

Seems like Marwan likes to be in control and that just might motivate Derek to say ''luvv u, I decide who is available to play or not for Leigh'' if the compromise is to the end of 2016 then the critical one may be in the play offs, in which case Derek may very well decide to do it now and get it out the way

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So he's been goaded onto giving Koukash money.

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Quote: LeythIg "So he's been goaded onto giving Koukash money.'"


Expand please

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Quote: LeythIg "So he's been goaded onto giving Koukash money.'"


Not necessarily. A judge would have to decide if the clause is fair. As it covers a period of almost 2 years a judge may decide that this is indeed unreasonable. If Marwan is confident he will take Gaz to court.

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Quote: maurice "Expand please'"


Mean from the line "Seems like Marwan likes to be in control and that just might motivate Derek to say ''luvv u, I decide who is available to play or not for Leigh''

Hopefully, DB has done his checks properly, and checked eligibility with the RFL, got legal advice about how likely he would have to pay and how much it would be if Hock played.

Unfortunately, it comes across that Marwan and his trolls have wound him up, and he's just reacted.

I'm sure he has done correct checks, but he really needs to get his head around social media and not to get caught up by trolls fishing for a reaction.

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I do not think this has anything to do with the RFL at all. This is all wrapped up in employment law

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Quote: LeythIg "Mean from the line "Seems like Marwan likes to be in control and that just might motivate Derek to say ''luvv u, I decide who is available to play or not for Leigh''

Hopefully, DB has done his checks properly, and checked eligibility with the RFL, got legal advice about how likely he would have to pay and how much it would be if Hock played.

Unfortunately, it comes across that Marwan and his trolls have wound him up, and he's just reacted.

I'm sure he has done correct checks, but he really needs to get his head around social media and not to get caught up by trolls fishing for a reaction.'"


I would hazard a guess that Hocks contract was settled at £x against the full term of £y with a difference of £z, the Doc then put a caveat in that prohibited him playing against Salford for a period which he was happy to sign to become a free agent. Leigh then sign Hock as a free agent at an affordable wage due to pay off. If Hock is selected to play against Salford because his employer requests him to do so, he is in breach of the terms of his settlement which would be a cash difference of £z and settled by agreement or in a court - Derek B the individual may then decide to pay that out of his own pocket as a consequence of requiring Gareth to play as part of his contract with Leigh.
Derek may decide that Hock could be the last ingredient to reach SL together with the central funding increase of £1.3m per season as a result, and that the amount payable is a sound investment.
Marwan has been naughty on two recent instances with Gareth/Leigh 1) when announcing to the world his signing after we had set up a press conference 2) When announcing to the world after the draw that Hock couldn't play in the fixture - maybe Derek is saying enough is enough and has the cash to meet the consequence as he believes the value of making him look silly would be worth it.
Time will tell, personally love it - all good fun with the penes resting on the ruler.

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Quote: maurice "I would hazard a guess that Hocks contract was settled at £x against the full term of £y with a difference of £z, the Doc then put a caveat in that prohibited him playing against Salford for a period which he was happy to sign to become a free agent. Leigh then sign Hock as a free agent at an affordable wage due to pay off. If Hock is selected to play against Salford because his employer requests him to do so, he is in breach of the terms of his settlement which would be a cash difference of £z and settled by agreement or in a court - Derek B the individual may then decide to pay that out of his own pocket as a consequence of requiring Gareth to play as part of his contract with Leigh.
Derek may decide that Hock could be the last ingredient to reach SL together with the central funding increase of £1.3m per season as a result, and that the amount payable is a sound investment.
Marwan has been naughty on two recent instances with Gareth/Leigh 1) when announcing to the world his signing after we had set up a press conference 2) When announcing to the world after the draw that Hock couldn't play in the fixture - maybe Derek is saying enough is enough and has the cash to meet the consequence as he believes the value of making him look silly would be worth it.
Time will tell, personally love it - all good fun with the penes resting on the ruler.'"

I Concur Mo ,whatever your post meant.

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Quote: maurice "I would hazard a guess that Hocks contract was settled at £x against the full term of £y with a difference of £z, the Doc then put a caveat in that prohibited him playing against Salford for a period which he was happy to sign to become a free agent. Leigh then sign Hock as a free agent at an affordable wage due to pay off. If Hock is selected to play against Salford because his employer requests him to do so, he is in breach of the terms of his settlement which would be a cash difference of £z and settled by agreement or in a court - Derek B the individual may then decide to pay that out of his own pocket as a consequence of requiring Gareth to play as part of his contract with Leigh.
Derek may decide that Hock could be the last ingredient to reach SL together with the central funding increase of £1.3m per season as a result, and that the amount payable is a sound investment.
Marwan has been naughty on two recent instances with Gareth/Leigh 1) when announcing to the world his signing after we had set up a press conference 2) When announcing to the world after the draw that Hock couldn't play in the fixture - maybe Derek is saying enough is enough and has the cash to meet the consequence as he believes the value of making him look silly would be worth it.
Time will tell, personally love it - all good fun with the penes resting on the ruler.'"


Quote: maurice "If Hock is selected to play against Salford because his employer requests him to do so, he is in breach of the terms of his settlement
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And if Hock refuses to play,he'll be in breach of contract with Leigh..

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Quote: charlie caroli "I Concur Mo ,whatever your post meant.'"


Well he's talking about your penes and a ruler.

So it's about a simple typing error eusa_think.gif

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Nice write up By Neil Barker in the MEN.

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Nice write up By Neil Barker in the MEN.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... 78#rlabs=2


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Nice? It is one of the worst articles I have ever read, it is a poorly written rambing set of sentences.

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Yes it's trending..But as you always say lets..move on.

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