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| Oh dear, how do they keep the squad players fit now. Only 3 over age layers allowed in their new U20's teams. I see the RFL are thinking things through again. I think SL clubs should only be allowed to loan out one player on their books. If they don't have room for them then they should get rid and let them try and get games elsewhere.
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| Quote: FredParky "Can't, its supposedly checked on a monthly basis by the RFL, also any salary cap infringes negates a SL licence bid for the next 'round'.'"
Fred it is a shame others on RLFans aren't privy to this info.
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| Quote: Gary High "[sizeYAWN[/size
Did Dewsbury have special dispensation ? NOPE So why should you ? Your Chairman should have got his head out of his ar*e and realised what was happening. He has been very clever in signing these big money players up before going to the RFL with his begging bowl. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves if they give you dispensation from the cap. A Top notch Stadium doesn't give you the right to anything, What you need to do is sign excellent quality Championship 1 players (which I don't see you struggling to do) and do what Dewsbury have done, whilst remaining within the rules - The amount of respect you would gain from that will be priceless. Think about it, you could have any player in Championship 1 as well as some decent loan players which would get you straight back up to The Championship at the first attempt.
The RFL auditors will find any irregularities at Barrow if there are any but I seriously doubt it will happen - Why put in all this hard work to p*ss the RFL off and go against the criterea for a franchise - Doesn't make sense to me !'"
MADE IN BARROW
and thats just a months suppy
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| Quote: DemonUK "
MADE IN BARROW
and thats just a months suppy'"
They are not big enough to hold Neds £10,000 a week
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| Quote: Gary High "[sizeYAWN[/size
Did Dewsbury have special dispensation ? NOPE So why should you ? Your Chairman should have got his head out of his ar*e and realised what was happening. He has been very clever in signing these big money players up before going to the RFL with his begging bowl. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves if they give you dispensation from the cap. A Top notch Stadium doesn't give you the right to anything, What you need to do is sign excellent quality Championship 1 players (which I don't see you struggling to do) and do what Dewsbury have done, whilst remaining within the rules - The amount of respect you would gain from that will be priceless. Think about it, you could have any player in Championship 1 as well as some decent loan players which would get you straight back up to The Championship at the first attempt.
The RFL auditors will find any irregularities at Barrow if there are any but I seriously doubt it will happen - Why put in all this hard work to p*ss the RFL off and go against the criterea for a franchise - Doesn't make sense to me !'"
Why are you writing to a Widnes fan as if there a leyther???
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| Quote: mapleyther "I hardly think this would happen - so they are going to have effectively a monthly salary cap, with a monthly audit from the goons at Red Hall?
How would they know if you have broken an annual cap half way through the season? What happens if you overspend one month and underspend the next month - do you get some of your points back?
I don't think so..
Mapleyther'"
Why be so naive?
If players contracted at the time go above salary cap you get fined! You can't say oh this week we've only got a-z signed up and next week we have the 2 stars on big deals but they didn't count when we played lower sides etc etc!
Cap is yearly based on contracted players on your books at the time! Same as you at work you have a yearly salary add them all together to get totla and it's that simple, if over you get pinged simple as really!
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| Quote: J20 "Why are you writing to a Widnes fan as if there a leyther???'"
The thread was started by a Leyther.
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| Dont know if this has been previously mentioned but the club have a meeting with the RFL this week with regards to the salary cap and the already signed player. I would imagine this is why there has been a delay in announcing the signings from widnes. I was also told the club are looking for more investment from Mr Rowland in order to tie up some of the current squad for contracts next year.
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| Quote: Gary High "[sizeYAWN[/size
Did Dewsbury have special dispensation ? NOPE So why should you ? Your Chairman should have got his head out of his ar*e and realised what was happening. He has been very clever in signing these big money players up before going to the RFL with his begging bowl. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves if they give you dispensation from the cap. A Top notch Stadium doesn't give you the right to anything, What you need to do is sign excellent quality Championship 1 players (which I don't see you struggling to do) and do what Dewsbury have done, whilst remaining within the rules - The amount of respect you would gain from that will be priceless. Think about it, you could have any player in Championship 1 as well as some decent loan players which would get you straight back up to The Championship at the first attempt.
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Gary - I too am against 'special dispensations', but we can't escape the fact that the RFL is for ever using them, to cover the loopholes they create in their 'legislation'. You are right about Dewsbury, they didn't need 'special dispensation', although they were working to a higher cap (than 2010) in C1. They also employed most of their Championship side, in C1.
As for our chairman, perhaps he genuinely believed that we would avoid relegation, when he was signing players? After all, we should have avoided it! I think he was just doing what all other chairmen were doing, and snapping up talent when it became available - if we had avoided relegation, at 'the death', it may have been too late to sign these players? Also, we have some of the 2009 squad on contracts, from years back, so we're committed to employing them in 2010.
So, would it be 'wrong' for us to be granted 'special dispensation'? Yes, but it wouldn't be the first time, and it certainly won't be the last!
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| Its a fact some C1 clubs are smaller than LMR/Easts, they are little more than pub teams playing on parks with a shed to sit in.
Those same clubs have the same vote as the more ambitious clubs, they rely on RFL money so vote with the RFL. The game here is a joke, its not about let the quality shine, its about lets drag back ambition to allow a level playing ground for the never will haves.
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| Quote: Gary High "The thread was started by a Leyther.'"
Don't be so direct commenting then
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| Quote: DemonUK "Better than no dispensation on the 150k it would have been if true. We'll only need 15 U21s in the squad now
Is it just me that sees a worrying pattern emerging here already.....
W***n making noises about supporting Leigh trying to get back into the Championship
RFL having introduced dual-registration contracts with the promise that such contracts will not fully count (or maybe not count at all? Can't remember) on the salary cap.
Leigh due for a meeting with the RFL to ask for dispensation on the cap this year due to being relegated.
If we're as close to the cap already as reported then we may get a small amount of leeway, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got the promise that dual-registered players brought in to complete our squad won't count on the cap or the loan quota. That way we can't complain as we're allowed to build a squad for the coming season, the RFL force us to sign up to their latest hair-brained scheme (and one which eventually confines us to the Championship for good), and Wigan get room freed up on their own cap, a feeder club into the bargain, and somewhere for their over-age reserves to stay match fit.
15 U21's suddenly looks like the better option...
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| Quote: J20 "Why be so naive?
If players contracted at the time go above salary cap you get fined! You can't say oh this week we've only got a-z signed up and next week we have the 2 stars on big deals but they didn't count when we played lower sides etc etc!
Cap is yearly based on contracted players on your books at the time! Same as you at work you have a yearly salary add them all together to get totla and it's that simple, if over you get pinged simple as really!'"
Well if you think thats the way it works..I am afraid it is you who are naive!
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| How new system will work!
Idea was to stop what Wigan did which was take the hit the year after etc... you get deductions on the stop and also you have to sort it staright away or you'll get fined again and again rather than just the once!
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| Following on from my unbiased earlier viewpoint.
I still stand by the point of view that Leigh should not be given a dispension.
A lot of people on this board are making references to other dispensions.
My unbiased opinion on this is that the RFL have royally stitched up the heartland clubs in favour of the "expansion clubs".
Unfortunately Leigh have taken the brunt end of it.
First Celtic Crusaders, then Toulouse and to top it all Gateshead.
Whilst that does leave a bitter taste, the fact of the matter is Leigh have taken risks and signed contracts which they were extremely foolish and i believe arrogant to do.
This error by the Leigh management should not compromise the other teams in CC1 so there should be no dispensation, end of.
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