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Having had a night to calm down, I honestly think that we are not getting the 'rub of the green', these last couple of games. But, there is no way that we can say officials are biased. Yes, they do make mistakes, as an earlier 'Fax poster has identified, and those mistakes of the last two games have been really magnified, in our current situation.

However, as someone else has pointed out - you tend to make your own luck. The cruel fact is that we haven't scored enough points, (most of the season) to render the odd reffing blunder of little consequence. We are where we are, because we aren't scoring enough points. Sure, we have 29 league points, but have only scored 379 points at about 20 per game. That's 127 less than Batley and 175 less than Gateshead - our two fellow relegation candidates! As Starbug will tell you, that's not going to win you very many games, in current-day RL! icon_cry.gif

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Quote: itsatry! "There was also 2 forward passess right near me and right in line with the touch judge both times and give neither 1st one was a good foot in front and the 2nd not as bad but they got a crucial try from it. Thought we played well all things considered and if you had offered us a bonus point i would have gladly took it after the 2 previous drubbings from Fax.'"



There were also many forward passes, knock ons, lying on at the play of the ball, high tackles and crossings that went un-noticed.... From both teams. That unfortunately is the nature of the game and we cant really expect the referee to spot everything, some go for you some go against you.

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Quote: vikinggriff1979 "said tamehearts attack to the head was a sending off offence as not only was it high, but there was clear intent to hit the playing with a swinging arm.

the ref today murdered leigh and they did well to get a bonus point with him in charge'"


Watch it again if you get the chance soft lad.

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Quote: leyther forever "Sorry Maurice but it was the most blatant and deliberate attack t the head in the whole match.'"


I presume you are talking about the Said tackle. Well... You need to look at that in perspective. It looked worse than it was because he went in very hard, and yes he swung his arm back to get some power into the tackle and it first hit on the arm, with the ball and went up into his face. I have no issue whatsoever with it being called as a penalty, but that is all it was.

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Quote: FredParky "things come things go but the third by Worincy definately was a knock on.'"



In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..

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Quote: spanishbob "In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..'"


TBF on that one i was sat near where it happened and it did look a knock on. But it would have been brought back for the first knock on by Leigh and i really couldnt see them holding us out for a set of six on their line at that point in the game.

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Quote: spanishbob "In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..'"
Hes the cameraman and does the videos you nonce

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Quote: Silent- Assassin "Hes the cameraman and does the videos you nonce'"


How does me not knowing he is a camera man make me a nonce, you moron?

Oh how does me not knowing you are a child make you a moron?

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Quote: vikinggriff1979 "said tamehearts attack to the head was a sending off offence as not only was it high, but there was clear intent to hit the playing with a swinging arm.'"


Absolute nonsense. It was exactly the same as Sonny Bill Williams on Clint Newton and Sam Burgess on Fui Fui Moi Moi. If it was that bad, why did Higson get straight back up and try and play on and none of your 'hard men' run in until after the touch judge came on when he heard your fans moan?

Worrincy's third was scrappy but from where I was sat it looked like Smith's pass was knocked back by a Leigh player then when the Leigh player slid in to gather the ball it slipped from his grasp and Worrincy reaped the rewards. I was sat quite close to it but still not certain.

Gleeson's pass to Royston for the matchwinner was perfect, bob on.

Having said that though we did give away some stupid penalties, with Said being a culprit for a few of them, but it was clear from the word go what your intent was and that wasn't to complete many tackles below the shoulder.

Dave Alstead, what an absolute Jessica, if he spent his energy into playing his rugby instead of playing the 'hardman' walking forward 3 steps after playing the ball to shout or coming in third man for a cheap shot, he'd have been lifting the cup on Saturday.

Still I do hope you stay up, doesn't bear thinking about having Leigh in C1 with a fanbase and stadium like that, especially when you're producing players like Ridyard, Mort and Higson.

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Quote: maurice "Was talking about the disallowed try, high shot got all it deserved, a penalty.'"
You did'nt get the high shot though ask the player how he felt afterwards and if he thinks it was ok then thats fine by me .

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Quote: Haighy "

it was clear from the word go what your intent was and that wasn't to complete many tackles below the shoulder.'"


It's often the last thing Paul Rowley says when the players go out.

'Hit them round the head as much as we can and give as many penatlies away as possible. You know it makes sense lads'

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Quote: Haighy "Absolute nonsense. It was exactly the same as Sonny Bill Williams on Clint Newton and Sam Burgess on Fui Fui Moi Moi. If it was that bad, why did Higson get straight back up and try and play on and none of your 'hard men' run in until after the touch judge came on when he heard your fans moan?
Worrincy's third was scrappy but from where I was sat it looked like Smith's pass was knocked back by a Leigh player then when the Leigh player slid in to gather the ball it slipped from his grasp and Worrincy reaped the rewards. I was sat quite close to it but still not certain.

Gleeson's pass to Royston for the matchwinner was perfect, bob on.

Having said that though we did give away some stupid penalties, with Said being a culprit for a few of them, but it was clear from the word go what your intent was and that wasn't to complete many tackles below the shoulder.

Dave Alstead, what an absolute Jessica, if he spent his energy into playing his rugby instead of playing the 'hardman' walking forward 3 steps after playing the ball to shout or coming in third man for a cheap shot, he'd have been lifting the cup on Saturday.

Still I do hope you stay up, doesn't bear thinking about having Leigh in C1 with a fanbase and stadium like that, especially when you're producing players like Ridyard, Mort and Higson.'"


erm, i'm a widnes fan and was there purely as a neutral, its was rather nice to watch a game without the tinted specs on for a change icon_wink.gif

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As a Fax fan who is totally biased I can still say that Worrincy DID knock on after picking up the knock on from a Leigh player so we would have had a scrum down there but it should have been dissallowed. We have been on the end of some of these calls in recent weeks so it is nice to get one for us for a change but that is sport in general.

Not sure about Tamgharts high shot, the ref wasn't even giving a penalty it was only because of the crowd reaction and a numpty running on the field waving a flag that it was given.

Glessons pass was perfect as I was sat in line with it, in fact it was the only good piece of rugby all afternoon.

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i agree urban carrot, worrincy did knock on for his 3rd i thought...was stood up so was quite a way away, but it looked to touch his arm...we would have gone back for 1st knock on tho,

saids 'high shot' wasnt high....he just tryed to cream him and missed slightly making it look awkward.

as for worrincys 1st try fom beswicks kick, in real time he looked offside, but how many times have you sed that watching sky live, for them to go tot he screen and be onside?...he kicked the ball from no more than 2metres from try line, and rob in lightening in space to move!

thought your guys yellow was waranted, wed have strolled in if he hadnt tackled him twice!lol

but larder should have followed him wen he impeded your guy chipping thru on last tackle..

a poor quality game, with all the tension youd expect making it nailbiting and very watchable
best team won tho icon_lol.gif

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