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Quote: maurice "I would welcome him on a season loan, best for all parties. FT at Wigan and playing at a higher level than C1 to learn his trade'"

Well it would put bums on seats, and FWIW, i think he will be an awesome Rl player!

However, it goes against EVERYTHING that has been agreed......and once that happens....

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season loans are not dc's

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Wether he is good or not is not the issue.

Even if we took him on loan we would have ex fans going around town telling folk how we are effectively Wigan Reserves.

WE ARE NOT and if you don't want to believe it well that is up to you.

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Last year we had Nash on loan, this is a new to RL intl ru player who has not yet played a game for Wigan so if it happens and if selected his RL debut would be for Leigh RLFC

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Is the point not whether he's good enough?

He'll get shown up defensively and fitness wise, he's not used to running, tackling and driving the ball for 80 minutes.

He's used to plodding about with his hands in his pockets lying on another fatty waiting for a penalty so he can have a 5 minute rest while the scrum half ponces about looking good while he kicks a penalty.

'he's going to be an outstanding attacking threat' is what people keep saying.

Not if he's knackered he's not.

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I thought this owd pony had been put to bed by now , as Budgie says it is getting boring , Powell CANNOT come to Leigh as a DC ,he is to old , but can come on loan ,its up to Paul R how long he comes for , as Mo said , it could be on a season long loan , i dont know ,but we wont be flooded by DCs , i have every faith in Paul R.

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Quote: maurice "Last year we had Nash on loan, this is a new to RL intl ru player who has not yet played a game for Wigan so if it happens and if selected his RL debut would be for Leigh RLFC'"


This should be given a positive spin and marketed rightit could get speccys through our turnstyle to see what hes about.

Paul Rowley needs to make the final call on players as he will live or die by results.

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The pie chairman was on the radio last Thursday and said he was sure Powell will make his rl debut playing for the pies, so hopefully he will not be coming to us.

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Quote: salfordlad "Wether he is good or not is not the issue.

Even if we took him on loan we would have ex fans going around town telling folk how we are effectively Wigan Reserves.

WE ARE NOT and if you don't want to believe it well that is up to you.'"


If a 31 year old former RU player new to RL who has just signed a big contract at Wigan Warriors RLFC turned out for Leigh Centurions on loan or DR then we will have become Wigan's reserve team no matter how much its dressed up.

If Leigh go back on what they said or look for loopholes such as 'he's not on DR he's on loan' then the club will end up in a right mess and its for that reason I agree with your last line Frank, I don't believe people at the club are so stupid to insult the fans intelligence.

Hopefully whoever is in charge has a word with Rowley (if indeed the quote is correct / taken in context) as at the moment in time we all need to be pulling together and comments like that are untimely and unwelcome.

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Why, Tom Spencer is on loan isn't he. Can't see a difference tbh.

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Quote: DemonUK "Why, Tom Spencer is on loan isn't he. Can't see a difference tbh.'"


For me its mainly because it doesn't fit in with anything Leigh Centurions said when trying to justify going into partnership with Wigan Warriors.

This is what Leigh released.............

General Points for Guidance

1. Playing opportunities will be offered for up to 5 players via a Dual Registration or Loan System Format. The preferred option would be to loan the players on a long term basis and there is an understanding between the two clubs that in reality only a maximum of 4 players will play each week.
2. All players that will be considered for this approach will be chosen by both clubs involved and each individual case will be decided by mutual consent.
3. All Players will maintain their primary registration with the Super League Clubs.
4. All Players will be under the age of 23 on 31st August 2012. 5. The clubs will agree on a player by player basis the financial amount for each player on both a loan and dual registration basis.
6. All Dual Registration and Loan Agreement players will only be eligible to play in The Play Off or Challenge Cup System if they meet the eligibility criteria as per RFL regulations and if agreed by all parties.
7. Leigh will provide suitable Medical attention for all players prior to, during and after games in consultation with the Wigan Warriors medical department.
8. Leigh will provide videos of all the games 24 hrs after the event to the Head of Youth.

What the Partnership is not About

1. Removing the identity or credibility of either club.
2. A one sided approach to the allocation of Super League players within the championship environment
3. The De Registration of Contracted Players to enable competitive opportunities for designated players.
4. Providing a short term environment for returning Super League Players.
5. Replacing the participating clubs current playing structure.

Vision

To provide a genuine partnership approach to the development of Junior Elite Players, in a competitive environment, whilst providing equal benefits to all parties, thus creating a flag ship approach which the game can follow.

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The highlighted bits are for me what would make this particular loan hard to justify.
Item 4 (General) means he is too old.
Item 4 (What its about) could be relevant here, true he hasn't played SL but he is a 31 year old contracted SL player and whilst not 'returning' on olden days (When they had reserve/ A teams) his circumstances would be classed as the same.
Highlighted bit in Vision ,he doesn't fit that criteria.

If he does turn out for Leigh it means the BoD , CEO and Coach have ignored or 'tailored' the above agreement that they told fans about.
That's why I don't think it will happen , they would be going back on the word given on such a controversial partnership.

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Loan / DC are two completely different things. Let it go. There are more pressing things to worry about at the moment.

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Quote: DemonUK "Loan / DC are two completely different things. Let it go. There are more pressing things to worry about at the moment.'"

Well said Derek eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif .Much more important things .

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Quote: charlie caroli "Well said Derek
Agreed, Does make you wonder why Rowley mentioned it.
Maybe it was before he knew of all the troubles and our players not being paid.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Is the point not whether he's good enough?

He'll get shown up defensively and fitness wise, he's not used to running, tackling and driving the ball for 80 minutes.

He's used to plodding about with his hands in his pockets lying on another fatty waiting for a penalty so he can have a 5 minute rest while the scrum half ponces about looking good while he kicks a penalty.

'he's going to be an outstanding attacking threat' is what people keep saying.

Not if he's knackered he's not.'"



You are about 20 years out of date, I'm afraid. He'll be immense in the Championship. Today's Union players are superfit athletes, full time professional trainers and gym-monkeys. He won't be a playmaker, sure... but then, he's not at union. He'll be a tremendous crashball runner that get spelled like any other forward, and will be someone players don't want to run at in d. If, and only if, he gets isolated in the line, his footwork might let him down facing a halfback, especially a Burrow/Obst low-centre-of-gravity player. But anything up front, and he'll front up.

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