Certainly nobody disputes that you were good value for your victory.

I was also impressed with the number and passion of your supporters, who obviously enjoyed a good evening!

No doubting we are all blinkered when it comes to refs. Having taken a colossal step up from the Championship to SL, we are naive enough to think we would see an improvement in officiating, to match that of the playing standards. It is very frustrating as a mere supporter, to witness some glaring inconsistencies in referees. It must be even more frustrating, as a player, to cope with that. All our defeats so far, have been down to the opposition being better than us, but some of the officiating has been incredibly inconsistent.

We still seem to have total confusion about markers being not square, or not retiring, with an attacking player running into them - unfortunately the refs seem to have 'discretion' in those cases. What is much worse for me, is the defending player lying behind the guy playing the ball - check how many times that happened last night. Just how is the dummy half supposed to pick up the ball and pass it quickly with someone lying in his way? Excellent tactic, especially on the last tackle!

Thornley clearly grounded the ball and the ref .gave us a penaltyafter disallowing the try. It has been known for a long time that Gigot.s appeal would be this week.Every team thinks that the ref.is against them. On other issues Stewart is primarily a defensive player ,but is also an attacking organiser .he was our best player last year and we miss him badly. Tonga was a disaster for us. I do not rate Pelissier ,But most Dragon's fans do.The coaches and President agreed with the negative view. Maria is a moderate standar player

Unfortunately it isn't simple Keith , we see a voluntary tackle in every game , but it doesn't get punished , what does happen though is we see players getting injured as happened last night

Punish the offence , remove the potential for injury

So you were closer than the 2 officials stood 6 feet away ?

Could not agree more about the referees. They are incompetent rather tha biased. Naturally we all see things from our own teams point of view.

It has been demonstrated many times that being closer to the action does not mean a correct decision will be made

What ! , don't talk bollox

When they are not able to further their point of view some people turn abusive. You are one of those people.

Please explain what you are trying to say.

You believe being closer ( 6/8 feet away right in front and to the side ) doesn't make it more likely you will get a decision right than being sat in the stand or watching a video from behind the play ?

In that case why do video referees overturn decisions made by the referee when forced to make a try/no try decision.

It does make it more likely but that is not what you meant by your earlier post. You queried a fans interpretation by saying the ref was nearer the action. You were challenging a Cats supporter who disagreed with a refs decision about a try when he was quite clear in his own mind that a try should have been given.

When you are challenged and cannot rebut that challenge you try and deflect by raising a different issue. In this case qualifying your statement by inserting "more likely to get the decision right"

1 st , no video ref available for this game , only cameras high up in the opposite stand 70 metres away

2 nd , we have ' in goal ' officials at non TV games to help the ref , in both ' no try's ' this official was stood in front of the grounding with the touch judges close by

HTH