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I understand what you are saying Ste and in an ideal scenario maybe Ben would not have been signed for a fee, but it hasn’t been an ideal world from day one, and the club was facing an extended time period without a first choice halfback at the time he was signed. We still are again now with Ellis still weeks away and Mellor now also 4 weeks out at least.
Say what you like about anyone signed, but they were likely the best available at the time and were willing to come to us knowing they were in an uphill battle.
The club has clearly stated that they were/still are actively looking for players. In the meantime we have the players we have, and the injuries that have happened. I have been disappointed in performances, especially in the Salford game, but for me, it is a team issue, not an individual(s) issue.

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Quote: Bent&Bongser "Upon return, Mickey Higham wasn't too shoddy for us in his twilight years, Ste and (going back), since you mention ex-players, bringing back Murphy saw him take a hand in bringing us the other piece of meaningful silverware in my lifetime after the winker had previously seen us to lifting the C-Cup.

Sometimes it's better the devil you know.

Hope you are keeping well I'm fairly good thanks icon_thumb.gif the pandemic has had positives to offset the negatives.

As I say, I can understand Ellis to a degree, I didn't see the pre season games but believe he went well & Mickey Higham & Murphy are legendary & were a big success on return.

Ryan was fantastic for Leigh at Championship level where the overall quality of the Leigh squad vs the lack of quality throughout the rest of the Championship gave him lot's of space & time, but this is his 3rd go at Leigh & he just isn't Super League standard (nice lad, does lot's off the pitch, a favourite with the kids) but not Super League.

Ben is someone I always believed in, always championed & defended. I always saw something in him where I believed he would kick on & achieve good things just as I did with Jamie Acton, but it's been so long now & it just isn't happening !

I do think the team will get better, after all it couldn't be a worse start with 3 tough teams to start & a very thin squad decimated by injuries.
I thought Wallace would go well & Mellor used to tie us up in knots but both have been very disappointing, so now we have 4 halves, 2 are injured & one is being played at Full Back (Ryan will never make a full back) & of the 4 only Ellis is up to SL standard (so far).

On a positive end, It's not long before we get to sit in the Library Stand & turn the volume up a bit ..... Happy Days !!!

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "I have defended Ben Reynolds for years now but this time around I just can't.
What is it about Leigh Centurions that the club have to re-sign ex Leigh players over & over again ?

I really can't get my head around Ryan Brierley & to actually pay a fee for Ben Reynolds is bordering on insanity !!!
Ellis I can kind of understand, he's decent without being a world beater.

Just why ?'"

At last a realisation about Reynolds. I only wish the club had heeded what happened when he went to Wakefield and after a bright start he was hardly ever used. The tactical kicking has never improved over the years especially the up and unders which do just that and never hang in the air long enough to put the full back under pressure. In open play he isn’t quick enough to glide through the gaps (oh what would we give for Woody of long ago!!).His goal kicking was always reliable, but going off Friday, that now seems debatable. So that just leaves tackling, that can still be relied on. Is that enough?
This all could have been avoided of course. That is the unbelievable decision in a meaningless friendly when already losing by over 20 points with ten minutes to go to send back on our most influential half back Jamie Ellis who promptly gets injured immediately and is still not available. Criminal!!!

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It was a crazy idea to play the two friendlies against Saints and Warrington. I can see the point in getting up to the pace of Super League but with such a shallow squad it was complacent to say the least, to think that injuries may not be picked up.

Now we are having to deal with the consequences. We have already lost one of our four or five must win games, survival is probably out of our hands unless we can pick up a couple of home wins against the likes of Huddersfield, Leeds or Hull.

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Quote: J7P1 "There is the need to spend money on transfer fees to sign players of sufficient quality to be competitive, and to offload those that are not, but that depends on how important survival in Super League is to those who have the power to make a difference.
If the operational Board has already been advised of no relegation then we still need further signings to make the season more enjoyable for the loyal fan base.'"


I think what is highlighted is a very fair comment, but it is a double edged sword as there is little to nobody available to improve the squad.

We have heard the snippets of one league of 14, two of 10 etc...., but only the league of 14 can commence next season as two leagues of 10 would demote 2 teams and would this be fair with loop fixtures and a good handful of games through the season ?

so its 14 in 2022, or 10 in 2023, but I will go with the former with Degsy playing his cards close to his chest.

This years squad have absolutely nothing to lose, but you would not think that the way they are playing. Last weeks performance was shocking. Friday cannot be any worse as Saints didnt crack any pots against Huddersfield last week either (and we play well against Saints normally).

Degsy gone for a sabbatical from twitter for a few weeks. Reasons behind this perhaps ?

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With most if not all of the Leigh squad on one year contracts it will be interesting to see how recruitment for next season is approached. This may reveal true ambition or may be hamstrung by not knowing definitely what division we will be in.

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Quote: atomic "I’ll ask the question too a business man. Would you have taken it on? The only way I would have taken it on is with prior knowledge of no relegation.'"


If this is the question I have not answered then I apologise in respect that I did not realise it was directed at me - Business Man, I have been retired for 10 years - but to answer your question
1. Yes that would be my respect.
2. Considering the application was an open invitation to apply to all the clubs below SL, I can't see that if 'No Relegation' was on offer that it could have been kept a secret, also I would not expect that Derek John Beaumont would have been given sole access to that offer.

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Quote: J7P1 "With most if not all of the Leigh squad on one year contracts it will be interesting to see how recruitment for next season is approached. This may reveal true ambition or may be hamstrung by not knowing definitely what division we will be in.'"


we will be in superleague 2 of ten teams

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Quote: knockonknockon "we will be in superleague 2 of ten teams'"


So you consider with a reduction of £15M per season from Sky SL clubs are going to sanction a share-out for 20 clubs compared to the present 12, even if the present share for the Championship and L1 was taken out of the equation it would still mean a reduction in Funding the SL clubs now recieve, they will never allow that will they?

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Quote: Harry Stottle "So you consider with a reduction of £15M per season from Sky SL clubs are going to sanction a share-out for 20 clubs compared to the present 12, even if the present share for the Championship and L1 was taken out of the equation it would still mean a reduction in Funding the SL clubs now recieve, they will never allow that will they?'"


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5610037/ ... tier-plan/
Quote: Harry Stottle "So you consider with a reduction of £15M per season from Sky SL clubs are going to sanction a share-out for 20 clubs compared to the present 12, even if the present share for the Championship and L1 was taken out of the equation it would still mean a reduction in Funding the SL clubs now recieve, they will never allow that will they?'"


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5610037/ ... tier-plan/


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Quote: Harry Stottle "If this is the question I have not answered then I apologise in respect that I did not realise it was directed at me - Business Man, I have been retired for 10 years - but to answer your question
1. Yes that would be my respect.
2. Considering the application was an open invitation to apply to all the clubs below SL, I can't see that if 'No Relegation' was on offer that it could have been kept a secret, also I would not expect that Derek John Beaumont would have been given sole access to that offer.'"


Or a restructure? Do you have fairy’s at the bottom of your garden Harry?

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knockonathon

That article is dated 19 Feb 2018

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5610037/ ... tier-plan/
knockonathon

That article is dated 19 Feb 2018

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/5610037/ ... tier-plan/


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Quote: J7P1 "knockonathon

That article is dated 19 Feb 2018


oops! sorry J1P7

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Quote: atomic "Or a restructure? Do you have fairy’s at the bottom of your garden Harry?'"


Good God man, so you pin all your hope's and aspirations that someone whispered into Derek's lughole or there is a restructure that is going to save us from this mess in which we find ourselves.
By the way who is the business man you were referring to, you wouldn't be referring to yourself with your 'wet finger in the air' strategy would you?

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Quote: Harry Stottle "Good God man, so you pin all your hope's and aspirations that someone whispered into Derek's lughole or there is a restructure that is going to save us from this mess in which we find ourselves.
By the way who is the business man you were referring to, you wouldn't be referring to yourself with your 'wet finger in the air' strategy would you?'"


Do you know what’s comical about all this, is current SL owners will have to vote on the restructure. Who would vote in favour of relegating their own club? Now that’s a mess.

As for the business man. I quoted you. Which usually means,I’m asking you. As for the wet finger, give it to the fairies.. icon_biggrin.gif

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