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| Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "They can't compete tho. Its impossible for them to, or would take decades. The very rules Leigh have to abide by are there for reasons that don't apply to a new club not in the heartlands.
In ideal world what you say should go, but if you was running the game would you have done this any different in same situation ?'"
If it takes decades then so be it, but at least it would be built on solid foundations. The trouble is that [ieverything[/i in RL is a short-term solution, rather than building a Welsh League up over time to provide a solid breeding ground to develop players. After all, they've got virtually exclusive picking of an entire nation's playing pool. |
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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.: |
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| Quote: DemonUK "Could also read, "because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition"
The government/Sport England will soon see this and the game will be excluded from possible grants and funding. European SL, christ they only play to any extent in France. Sorry but my message to DH Lewis is allez en avant et multipliez-vous
Oh and I will also add this. IMO Mr Samuels is already cashing in and gettying ready to pull out with the money in selling the lease on Brewery Field for half a million. They should be able to afford better players with that money, but i suspect that money has not and will not go anywhere near the clubs
Even the European comps in football are separate from the Englsh/Scottish and Welsh Leagues, so why not in RL. With all the money in football its more feasible/affordable for a European League, but no one is interested, and if the truth be told the same goes for RL. We have effectively been press(SKY)ganged into it.'"
Well the money that Rugby League was awarded recently from Sport England was £39 million.That is the reason there is no Great Britain anymore because they would have not got the grant otherwise.The money is being spent on monitoring the chosen players they have just anounced for the England squad. I do believe the monitoring is extreme where they are being wired up most of the time the intention is to beat the Aussies ,will any of this money filter down to the lower clubs ?Well what do you think. |
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| Quote: johnny freeman fan club "Well the money that Rugby League was awarded recently from Sport England was £39 million.That is the reason there is no Great Britain anymore because they would have not got the grant otherwise.The money is being spent on monitoring the chosen players they have just anounced for the England squad. I do believe the monitoring is extreme where they are being wired up most of the time the intention is to beat the Aussies ,will any of this money filter down to the lower clubs ?Well what do you think.'"
The Sport England money is all allocated to grass roots development projects. It has nothing to do with England RL, SL or elite level sports (except in the context of player pathways). |
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| Quote: because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition "Could also read, "because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition"
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Why would the superleage teams share the money they get for there comp with teams not in Superleague, dosn't happen in football.
Quote: because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition "The government/Sport England will soon see this and the game will be excluded from possible grants and funding.'"
The RFL have just got a better deal from sports england, more money for development of the sport.
Quote: because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition "Even the European comps in football are separate from the Englsh/Scottish and Welsh Leagues, so why not in RL. With all the money in football its more feasible/affordable for a European League, but no one is interested, and if the truth be told the same goes for RL.'"
To compare Football and RL is plain stupid, football is played by more people than any other sport, they have more teams and intrest in those teams to alow for the leagues in Wales,Scotland,england...etc
Quote: because the money coming into the RFL is only shared in any consequence with 14 out of 32 member clubs the game can no longer be recognised as a true sport in the british tradition "IMO Mr Samuels is already cashing in and gettying ready to pull out with the money in selling the lease on Brewery Field for half a million. They should be able to afford better players with that money, but i suspect that money has not and will not go anywhere near the club. '"
He has sold the lease to the ground, which is battered, has a very low rent to pay and no cost for the upkeep of the ground, not a bad bit of business.
Just because thay have 500k to spend dosn't mean thay should blow it on players, remember there is a salary cap and spending silly money would kill the club, look at the mess Leigh is in after a (very bad) year in Superleague. Until clubs like leagie get there house in order they should be no where near the Super League. '"
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2015 - major missed opportunity, 2016 - stronger teams = harder task (no problem there then), 2017 - OMG What now!!!:953.jpg |
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| Quote: Saintsnut "Why would the superleage teams share the money they get for there comp with teams not in Superleague, dosn't happen in football.
The RFL have just got a better deal from sports england, more money for development of the sport.
To compare Football and RL is plain stupid, football is played by more people than any other sport, they have more teams and intrest in those teams to alow for the leagues in Wales,Scotland,england...etc
He has sold the lease to the ground, which is battered, has a very low rent to pay and no cost for the upkeep of the ground, not a bad bit of business.
Just because thay have 500k to spend dosn't mean thay should blow it on players, remember there is a salary cap and spending silly money would kill the club, look at the mess Leigh is in after a (very bad) year in Superleague. Until clubs like leagie get there house in order they should be no where near the Super League. '" '"
They haven't but he has.
Typical SL fan full of their own self importance and stuff the rest of you attitude. Ahem, Championship on SKY for which the home team only gets £4000 from the Co-OP sponsorship, the club also has to spend ALL said £4000 for that game. The game is as rotten as your ground.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "If it takes decades then so be it, but at least it would be built on solid foundations. The trouble is that [ieverything[/i in RL is a short-term solution, rather than building a Welsh League up over time to provide a solid breeding ground to develop players. After all, they've got virtually exclusive picking of an entire nation's playing pool.'"
But how do they compete with say Leigh on same rules as us ? |
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| Quote: Wembley71 "But league fans are interested in P&R. How many at that Wakey-Cas relegation game a few years ago? How many at the Leigh-Whitehaven NL GF? How many at the Hull KR - Cas games??'"
But I can provide evidence showing opposite to this. What you have done there is picked out a one off Cas-Wakey which is a very rare possibility of that situation happening again. You have chosen Leigh/Haven GF which is 1 game in a season, when rest of league games approaching this final was poor for us. Should we just have 1 game seasons ? 
You have chosen HKR - Cas who are both well supported anyway and deserve to be in SL with enthusiasm there supporters showed in following their clubs. They was actually intersting encounters in an otherwise poor league. Give us 10 more clubs like these in our comp, and P&R would still be with us me thinks. |
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| Quote: "Even the European comps in football are separate from the Englsh/Scottish and Welsh Leagues, so why not in RL. With all the money in football its more feasible/affordable for a European League, but no one is interested, and if the truth be told the same goes for RL. We have effectively been press(SKY)ganged into it.'"
SL is separate competition - ridicule the name which I know you do, but its fact. Look on beeb website for the table and look at categories for example |
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| Quote: Leeeigh Leeeigh "But I can provide evidence showing opposite to this. What you have done there is picked out a one off Cas-Wakey which is a very rare possibility of that situation happening again. You have chosen Leigh/Haven GF which is 1 game in a season, when rest of league games approaching this final was poor for us. Should we just have 1 game seasons ? 
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| Quote: Nozzy "Why? ![]()
Too many years watcing Blackburn Rovers with the ex wife, and living for about 20 years in an area over run with the vermin fans that they have. Landlord of my local pub (a Preston fan himself) used to say that if there was ever an argument between Rovers and Burnley fans, it would ALWAYS be the Burnley fan that would throw the first punch.
Although they did give me my favourite football moment about 10 years ago. When Rovers beat them in the cup, they did their usual trick of going on the rampage and trashing the town centre. Only problem was that it was played in Burnley not Blackburn...
Thick thugs covers it.
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Nik is right the Burnley fans have a terrible reputation
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| Quote: Starbug "Ask the same question of Mr Thomas at Leigh , how does he guarantee he gets Leigh into SL as quickly as possible , ie 2012 ?
I win the Euro Lottery next week , 50 Million , Can I guarantee that my money buys a SL spot in 2012 ?
I cannot , why ? because of the location of my club
Mr Samuels on the other hand asks the RFL what he needed to do to guarantee a SL place in 2009 , they told him exactly what he had to achieve , and they gave him the tools to achieve it
Not a problem with that
If they had stated that from the start
If we had had Mr Lewis make a statement back in 2006 " We intend to expand the SL competition into Wales , Mr Samuels has committed to finance this expansion and the Celtic Crusaders will take a 3 year Licence to play in SL in 2009 "
" We understand that some clubs will be unhappy with this but we feel that for the long term benefit of the sport we cannot miss this opportunity "
" The franchise system will cause upset to many fans and officials of clubs excluded , but we will make it our priority to help these clubs prosper in the competitions they are in and to genuinley make a success of these competitions "
I'd have lived with that , and personally I think so would many others'"
Like you said the truth wold not have hurt as much as the sham they had all the clubs go through...thats why the clubs outside super league are dieing a death....no future simple as |
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