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| Quote: atomic "There are still a few possible scenarios available yet.One of which could see us requiring points rather than the win when we play you.'"
Don't bank on that, we've conceded 40 points in 5 games and have by far the best points difference in the group.
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| Quote: atomic "There are still a few possible scenarios available yet.One of which could see us requiring points rather than the win when we play you.'"
So loads of points but not win is that your latest brain fart?
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| Quote: 8ULL5HITT4 "I don't think we've learned much that we didn't know already. Anyone who watches Super League regularly can see that the extra money on offer gets a better standard of player, and more of them.
All of the Bulls preferred starting 17 have recent Super League experience( or NRL) but it's obvious that that isn't enough in itself.............They all become de -skilled in a short period of time as we have been light years away from the standard required as shown by Wakefield, Widnes and Hull K R in our matches against them. Hopefully the other full time teams will be up for it next year and more of the part time teams will be able to improve. I always felt it would take a miracle for anyone to get promotion and now we've had a good look I don't think that miracles come that big.'"
Yes. Many supporters think that ex Super League and NRL players are of the required standard. The clue is in the "ex" if they were still good enough they would not be playing for a Championship side. They are getting on in years, never quite made it or have baggage. It takes a special type of coach to get the best out of such players when the chips are down. It's relatively easy when you winning easy matches. You beat Wakey and Salford in the cup when there was little pressure on your team as it was all on the Super League teams who did not want to be beaten. The trouble was that in the Qualifiers many of your supporters and I suspect some of the team felt that you could just continue the same way to get the same result. After we scored that first breakaway try the first half belonged to you. This probably just emphasised that feeling as it was the first match and you didn't have anything to compare it with. The second half came as a shock to everyone associated with the Leigh Club. Our early first try set panic in your team and it was only a matter of time. Super League teams do not normally give up and die when the going gets tough and can grind out a win even when not playing particularly well. I did think you would learn a lot from that first match but again when things again got tough in subsequent matches your players have still been found wanting when the pressure was on.
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| Quote: reffy "So loads of points but not win is that your latest brain fart?
That's one scenario.. Or does that go beyond your realistic negativity again!
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| How can a shed load of points be more important than a win?
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| Quote: reffy "How can a shed load of points be more important than a win?'"
It can't. It's called clutching at straws.
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| Quote: AJ Viking "Don't bank on that, we've conceded 40 points in 5 games and have by far the best points difference in the group.'"
And don't bank on us rolling over...This qualifiers isn't over yet!
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| Quote: atomic "And don't bank on us rolling over...This qualifiers isn't over yet!'"
It is for us.
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| Quote: AJ Viking "It is for us.
Boo! Hiss! Sod Off!
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| Quote: Keiththered "Yes. Many supporters think that ex Super League and NRL players are of the required standard. The clue is in the "ex" if they were still good enough they would not be playing for a Championship side. They are getting on in years, never quite made it or have baggage. It takes a special type of coach to get the best out of such players when the chips are down. It's relatively easy when you winning easy matches. You beat Wakey and Salford in the cup when there was little pressure on your team as it was all on the Super League teams who did not want to be beaten. The trouble was that in the Qualifiers many of your supporters and I suspect some of the team felt that you could just continue the same way to get the same result. After we scored that first breakaway try the first half belonged to you. This probably just emphasised that feeling as it was the first match and you didn't have anything to compare it with. The second half came as a shock to everyone associated with the Leigh Club. Our early first try set panic in your team and it was only a matter of time. Super League teams do not normally give up and die when the going gets tough and can grind out a win even when not playing particularly well. I did think you would learn a lot from that first match but again when things again got tough in subsequent matches your players have still been found wanting when the pressure was on.'"
Yes correct,that's why we have given up on the qualifiers this season and handed a bye to the Bulls on Saturday,with Widnes waiting in the wings to play the reserve team.
Hopefully realistically realists will follow us next season with the same positive attitudes..
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| Quote: atomic "Yes correct,that's why we have given up on the qualifiers this season and handed a bye to the Bulls on Saturday,with Widnes waiting in the wings to play the reserve team.
Hopefully realistically realists will follow us next season with the same positive attitudes..'"
That's the wrong mindset. Don't give up! If HKR had that attitude you would have won that first match. If the players believe that Leigh will never win anything of value. Winning the Championship is of no value other than in a parochial sense. It does however give you the best chance of promotion amongst the Championship clubs A chance the lack of a plan B seems to be frittering away.
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| I think Atomic's post was just a tad tongue in cheek.
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| Quote: Keiththered "Yes. Many supporters think that ex Super League and NRL players are of the required standard. The clue is in the "ex" if they were still good enough they would not be playing for a Championship side. They are getting on in years, never quite made it or have baggage. It takes a special type of coach to get the best out of such players when the chips are down. It's relatively easy when you winning easy matches. You beat Wakey and Salford in the cup when there was little pressure on your team as it was all on the Super League teams who did not want to be beaten. The trouble was that in the Qualifiers many of your supporters and I suspect some of the team felt that you could just continue the same way to get the same result. After we scored that first breakaway try the first half belonged to you. This probably just emphasised that feeling as it was the first match and you didn't have anything to compare it with. The second half came as a shock to everyone associated with the Leigh Club. Our early first try set panic in your team and it was only a matter of time. Super League teams do not normally give up and die when the going gets tough and can grind out a win even when not playing particularly well. I did think you would learn a lot from that first match but again when things again got tough in subsequent matches your players have still been found wanting when the pressure was on.'"
There could be a lot in what you say.
I think another major factor lies in the alarming way we have coughed up possession and conceded territory through penalties. In the Championship we have been able to get away with it, most of the time. Super League teams, and a good, in-form Halifax team have made us suffer for our indiscretions. Somehow, we have to learn to respect possession, cut down the indiscipline, yet still play the attractive rugby that has been a joy to watch. Not an easy balance to strike, but yet it has to be done.
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| Even a brief look at the highlights and I get the impression Halifax are a team where as Leigh are a group of individuals.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Even a brief look at the highlights and I get the impression Halifax are a team where as Leigh are a group of individuals.'"
INDIVIDUALS WHO FINISHED TOP OF THE LEAGUE. you wouldn't be on our forum if you'd have lost yesterday. just be happy that your dream came true and you finally beat leigh.
you can take your expert analysis and shove it up your crevice.
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