Keep your chin up Andy, you have them at your place yet don't you, you can beat them then for us, or am i wrong with that fixture.

merged them all into one

Ah i am with you now Fred, wondered what you were on about at first.

Useless gets, knew we couldn't rely on them. Well done to Fev though, obviously a hell of a performance, even if it's nowt new to stick 50 past the Smogs

Sorry guys that was a joke of a perfromance from Widnes im afraid

Was there tonight, they simply do not care nor give a crap, no fight, no passion, no attempt of a comeback despite playing downhill in the second half

Some of those players are stealing money at Widnes, Allen and Kavanagh to name two who were simply dire, in fact what summed it up was both of them went for Cockaynes head in a challenge, cockayne ducked, both missed and clattered into one another while Cockayne scored

Even Danny Hulme was dire who everyone has been raving about, he scored 2 i think tries but cost tries at the other end either by dropping bombs and grubbers and a woeful attempt of a one on one tackle on Saxton

The only postive thing was the away support, which was excellent for a weds night game, something which will be missed when they go up

Very disappointed in Widnes, thought they would give us a game and i actually thought we might come up short, how wrong i was

I cant see them doing much on the last day of season based on that either so i wouldnt be relying on that factor

Would rather have a team in our division that cares now, a Swinton or a Keighley, someone that will have a go for 80 mins, not decide to throw ball around with 5 mins to go and nothing to play for

Similar thing happened when we battered them in the league at the LSV when (I think) Leuleui and I'Anson tied themselves up in knots trying to tackle Ridyard, who just waltzed past them and stuck the ball down over the line.

A shame we cant kick either, Finny hit all the difficult ones but missed 3 relatively easy ones

56 was generous

No doubt Widnes will say their B team was on show, well i would hate for the A team to get crocked put it that way!

Well glad i did not go the game Fev fan, as i ashamed to get beat with no effort.Suppose to be contracts mentioned this week and i can not believe we are not looking at Fev or Leigh players.But i feel Betts is a crap coach and needs to be replaced to assistant.If i was Varks or Tyrer i be thinking why Leuluai,Coyle and Allen have contracts as they are crap.The dressing room must be awful, and Grant Gore in the reserves has been playing very well at scrumhalf.Then we sign James Coyle who has always robbed Widnes of money.I want players with pride in the shirt and the fans do not deserve this crap.No team spirit,motivation,desire or heart.I have written our season off and rather stick all our youngsters in our last game.

Fev gave there most polished performance of the season so far, but Widnes were dire and it shows the whole licence system up for the sham it is were rewarding shiiiite and will never beat the Aussies again. Best dropped a bollok by announcing to the whole world that Leigh were the best team in this div last week not a wise move with us to play twice. Leigh may well be the best team but you can bet Denis did Darryls team talk for him

Be careful, give it 6 months and Betts will be claiming it as a coaching triumph after finally inspiring [isomeone[/i to play well

Isn't it bloody typical tho. I go away and miss the game of the season when we click all across the park!!
Still, 3 to go............ I am not counting any chickens!!

Featherstone had the chance to apply for a franchise/licence but didn't so you can't complain about Widnes wining first prize when you don't buy a ticket

well, yes you can Fred. Fev would not have met the criteria for SL under the current perameters set by the RFL, so there was little point in spending time, money and effort that could be re-directed elsewhere on a pointless exercise. I couldn't understand why Dez bothered with it at Barrow. It was never going to work.
It's the whole ethos of the game that supports mediocrity above performance that is wrong in the game, but you know that Fred.
Fax should have gone up last term, but I'm an avid supporter of the P&R option for the winning Grand finalist.
The game has neither transparency or integrity in my opinion at the mo Fred.
We all knew widnes we're a "shoe in", and so it transpired. The RFL/SL are able to more or less do as they like.
But either way, a result as definate as last night at this end of the season is encouraging to say the least - regardless of the politics.

Robin the facts still are that Fev didn't apply so it matters not where any persons thoughts are, we all know that licencing/franchising works in other sports and should have been introduced 16 years ago properly on a regional basis but clubs were so stuck in their ways that the only way it could be decided was the top teams AT THE TIME plus London and Paris were put into SL, now if it had happened maybe 20 years before that the make up of the league would have been different, but alas it didn't so we are stuck with it.
I also think the system is flawed but one cant get away with the fact If you don't/can't apply then you can't get in, thats the only point I was making.
Widnes are an above average side that are poorly coached and led, they raised their game against us (local derby and all that) and ran us closer than they did in the past, not taking anything away from Fevs performance at all as I have not seen it as yet - but our Dave was there and said whilst yes Fev were good Widnes were awful and from what he saw it would appear that the Widnes coaching staff either had not viewed any Fev vids or else completely ignored them, as Fev are a team rather like us they play as a team perhaps not having the best individual players in the league but one of the best UNIT's and play to a well structured and executed game plan that changes little from game to game but do have the odd individual who can do that 'little special thing'.

Good luck to Widnes I hope they succeed but will have to recruit a lot wiser than they have seemed to have done so far and a change of coaching staff would, benefit them immensely, but lets not shout that too loudly as they may well 'nick' ours or yours that is if ours doesn't get the Cas or Wakey job something I'm surprised Powell has not been linked with TBH.