referring to an article on page 3 of the League Express from 22/11/2010 : according to the RFL it states that Championship clubs receive around £120,000 from central distribution compared to £25,000 in 2004 - a considerable increase which doesn't seem to have prevented the likes of Donny, Hornets, Gateshead,Cougars & Whitehaven from going into administration

here we go again ...

is this fact or just your personal opinion ?

so does each Championship club receive £120,000 annually from the RFL in your opinion ?

I'd be very surprised if they do. I thought there were 'strings' attached - like employing staff in certain positions within the club organisation. (on the admin side)

Also, I believe the RFL deduct monies from the available monies, to cover payments that the clubs should be making. (e.g. Last season's issues of 'Game On' magazine)

By the way, I'm not suggesting the RFL is doing anything underhand - more that this £120k per club is not as clear cut as we may imagine.

Well I do not believe the RFL gave the Championship clubs £2 640 000 last season Where would it have come from ?

read the article in LE 22/11/2010 headlined 'RFL Plans Championship Crackdown' on page 3 and the £120,000 per Championship club is quoted by RFL Chief Operations Director,Ralph Rimmer so I assume it must be correct along with the fact that 16 of the 22 C/C1 clubs reported reduced attendances for 2010

I don't doubt what you have read I do not believe it.A long time ago I decided unless it is in the Daily Telegraph do not believe it.

Now I am a little older they too now print incorrect information (as they always did of course ).I decide on balance which story is likely to be true and I usually go for the most obvious conclusion.

read the article for yourself and judge accordingly or send an email to Chris Jones who covered the story for LE and ask him.Why would the LE invent or quote an RFL official in public knowing it to be libellous ?

It wouldn't be libellous it is stating a fact that appears to be incorrect imo. Nobody is harmed wether it is right or wrong. I think it is wrong.

fair enough mate

Nigel Wood made a statement at the begining of season 2009

" There was 2.1 million available to the 21 Championship clubs meaning every club could access £ 100,000 "

So that would mean each and every club actually getting £ 100,000

But as it included NRC prize money , Co oP TV money and several other ' pots ' of money only available to certain clubs [ ie GF apperance money ] and it also required clubs to employ certain staff with a brief from the RFL to attain certain levels of sponsorship and corporate support , it was impossible for every single individual club to recieve that precise amount of money

In reality only 2/3 Championship 1 clubs could have done so as they would have had to win either the NRC or make the Championship 1 GF

So yes every club at the start of the season could in theory be a club to get that amount

All a play on words , something the RFL are very good at , lots of rehtoric , but little actual substance

As for the Toulouse travel money [ both ways ] , is it part of that available money ? , I dont know , but knowing the way the RFL ' spin ' they would include every last penny in an announcement so the odds are yes

Meaning one thing , at the begining of the season the only club guaranteed to recieve 100 K from the RFL is , Toulouse

A bit of advice for some posters , the RFL tell lies , especially now they have ' patsy's ' to deliver them

Would be a loss but not a huge 1 they have a ready made replacment there in Wheeler who is class and will be a top RL SO in the future

no problem with any of that and you make some good points but in this case,the 'patsy' then is Chris Jones from the League Express of 22/11/2010 which quotes 'The RFLs Cheif Operations Director,Ralph Rimmer has pointed out that the RFLs overall central distribution to Championship clubs now stands at around £120,000 per club,compared with £25,000 per club in 2004.And yet the increased distribution from the centre,and a rigourously enforced salary cap have failed to stem the financial losses that most clubs in the competition have suffered'

so the supposition is that this is false information fed to the LE by the RFL on purpose and transmitted by the 'patsy',namely Chris Jones - is that it ?
I'm not a particularly gullible person by nature so I naiivley beleive such statements which appear to be 'offiially' released from Red Hall - no more,no less.

I am flummoxed buy all this, can someone please make it simple for a numpty like me with a list of all the rules that a club must meet to be given the money and amounts. Or point me in the direction where I can read them. Then if it is possible, a list of all the clubs and what money they recieved from the rfl under these rules. I mean how much of the £100,000 they actualy recieved. Threads like this where there are no real facts and a lot of disagreement are worse than the rumour ones.

Getting back to the topic of Eastmond leaving the RFL,

As said previously the main driver will no doubt be finance as it was with young Ashton and pretty much with anyone who's switched codes.

The big question Mr Wood and Mr Lewis is why can the RFU offer such deals? Corporate and TV sponsorship will blow the RFL out of the water why??

Simply because the international game of RU is the pinnacle of the sport with a proper structure. We used to have such a thing with structured tours and succesful world cups anyone remember 95, 94, 90, etc??

But we have been brain washed by Uncle Mo, Chris Caisley, Mr Wood and now Mr Lewis in believing the RFL is at its strongest for years, do me a favour!!!

Can anything be done to stop such a drain :-

1) Make the salary cap income related (a bit like it was invented for) with an increase in the maximum spend

2) Structure organised tours, maybe people like Eastmond would dream of repeating the successes of Edwards, Schofield, Millward, Murphy etc

The above two would in my opinion lead to more high profile signings and more media coverage for point 2 above. All of which would allow Saints to at least offer Eastmond a similar financial package due to the increased TV and sponsorship income streams.

Keep going the way we are and I fear for our game in 20 years time!