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Real classy statement from the jaguars. No acknowledgment of how serious the crime is but they will support Zak. WTAF?? Support him?? He’s a repeated drunk driver. Absolute scum of the earth.

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Quote: Septimius Severus "It makes more sense for Leigh to help rather than punish. Zak has always appeared to be someone in need of a guiding hand and an arm around the shoulder.'"


Does it? Does he? The only justification for Leigh 'supporting him' is his ability as a player. As a person, he's run out of excuses and must eventually take some responsibility for his actions and face the consequences of them. Driving at speeds of up to 88 miles per hours in a residential area whilst well over the drink drive limit? This isn't having one too many and making a show of yourself on a night out. He's incredibly fortunate he's not killed anyone and that he's not in prison for a spell.

Leigh need to be stronger with him. He should be sacked really, given his history, this isn't his first very serious behavioural incident. He's a massive risk to Leigh's reputation and that of the sport.

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Quote: Manx Leyther "Lets hope Leigh's well drilled player care can ensure he is taken care of and he continues to perform for us.'"


Taken care of? Not sure that's the right approach.

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Ben Barba -

2017-18 – St Helens revival
Barba attends a rehab clinic in Thailand to help with alcohol issues before playing for Toulon.

But the rugby move proves a failure and the club sack him after four games.

He joins St Helens in the English Super League and revives his league career after serving the remainder of his cocaine ban.

Saints didn't mind (taking care of him), and giving him a lifeline. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Cokey "Ben Barba -

2017-18 – St Helens revival
Barba attends a rehab clinic in Thailand to help with alcohol issues before playing for Toulon.

But the rugby move proves a failure and the club sack him after four games.

He joins St Helens in the English Super League and revives his league career after serving the remainder of his cocaine ban.

Saints didn't mind (taking care of him), and giving him a lifeline.
This isn’t about Ben Barba - this is about Zak Hardaker who has had a life line thrown to him and by the looks of it he’s repeating previous misdemeanours.
Every one deserves a second chance , and he’s had his.
If we would of got Sailor over the line with a view of him being able to take over the right centre spot I think we would of seen a different outcome

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Quote: Cokey "Ben Barba -

2017-18 – St Helens revival
Barba attends a rehab clinic in Thailand to help with alcohol issues before playing for Toulon.

But the rugby move proves a failure and the club sack him after four games.

He joins St Helens in the English Super League and revives his league career after serving the remainder of his cocaine ban.

Saints didn't mind (taking care of him), and giving him a lifeline.
Quite. I'm not suggesting people don't get a second chance. Rugby league is filled with people who have messed up and been allowed a second chance, I'm not suggesting we get all high and mighty. Zac however has had several second chances now (Including both of those issues). Barba's behaviour at Saints was impeccable, it had to be or he'd have been sacked. It was after he left us that he really got himself in trouble, when he returned home to his old stomping ground. A similar problem to Hardaker, letting him live in Yorkshire was a clear error on Leigh's part and this was rather inevitable. If he gets away with it again, what is the motivation for him to change, especially if he gets treated like a baby by Leigh, as it sounds like they're going to?

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Homophobic, drug taking, student beating, drunk driving multiple times. What’s next on the Zak Hardaker bingo card for a full house?

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Quote: Lower Creaser "This isn’t about Ben Barba - this is about Zak Hardaker who has had a life line thrown to him and by the looks of it he’s repeating previous misdemeanours.
Every one deserves a second chance , and he’s had his.
If we would of got Sailor over the line with a view of him being able to take over the right centre spot I think we would of seen a different outcome'"


I'm just reminding the Stain fans of the hypocrisy. Zak has been a naughty boy, and we have told that the club are supporting him. If you think there would've been a different outcome if Sailor was here; you're wrong.

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Quote: Cokey "I'm just reminding the Stain fans of the hypocrisy. Zak has been a naughty boy, and we have told that the club are supporting him. If you think there would've been a different outcome if Sailor was here; you're wrong.'"

I’m wrong for thinking something? Wow

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Quote: Lower Creaser "I’m wrong for thinking something? Wow'"


Yeah, I think you're wrong. And?
The club have said they will support him henceforth, however, he will be on the last chance saloon.

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You can’t be wrong for having an opinion, that’s called disagreeing

Whilst you may not agree with my thought process you can’t label it as wrong. Unless you are the person making the decision on his future , and I’m guessing you’re not .

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Quote: Lower Creaser "You can’t be wrong for having an opinion, that’s called disagreeing

Whilst you may not agree with my thought process you can’t label it as wrong. Unless you are the person making the decision on his future , and I’m guessing you’re not .'"


I disagree then. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Cokey "I'm just reminding the Stain fans of the hypocrisy. Zak has been a naughty boy, and we have told that the club are supporting him. If you think there would've been a different outcome if Sailor was here; you're wrong.'"


Why is it hypocritical? What did Ben Barba do at saints that required them to “support him” ?

I’m really glad you condone the behaviour of that absolute wrong un you have playing for you. You are just as classless as tin pot club you support

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This is how Rugby League works. Joe Burgess breaks disciplinary rules at Salford. Salford sack him. Hull KR sign him with a clean sheet.
What is the point of that? Already Ben Barba has been discussed and his sins were washed away by Saints, and nobody cared as long as he was the star on the field.
Zak fell out with Wigan because they wanted him to move to the Wigan area it was not about the distance to travel to work, which is why it was ok when he signed for Leigh. He needs educating not punishing, and besides Leigh would be worse off without him.

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Quote: Septimius Severus "This is how Rugby League works. Joe Burgess breaks disciplinary rules at Salford. Salford sack him. Hull KR sign him with a clean sheet.
What is the point of that? Already Ben Barba has been discussed and his sins were washed away by Saints, and nobody cared as long as he was the star on the field.
Zak fell out with Wigan because they wanted him to move to the Wigan area it was not about the distance to travel to work, which is why it was ok when he signed for Leigh. He needs educating not punishing, and besides Leigh would be worse off without him.'"


The last line of your comment was exactly what I was alluding to in my post .
If we had cover , and by cover quality cover would we have run the risk of the negative response to undo all the good work we have done in removing the stigma of a poorly run club.

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