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Quote: John Gilbert Reds ""As part of his release agreement that he signed with us, it was agreed that he couldn't play any competitive games against us," Koukash said.
"Gareth was fully aware of that. The discussions were with Gareth and his agent and, from what I'm hearing, Leigh were made aware of the clause. It's in black and white and agreements are made to be respected."
You cant really get much clearer than that. For all Koukash knew, Hock could have signed for another Super League club and therefore the clause makes absolute sense from a Salford perspective. If we hadn't been drawn together in the Challenge Cup this clause wouldn't have ever been discussed or known of to the general public.'"
There are differences between agreements and contracts. I can have an agreement to buy someone's house but can back out at any time up until the contracts are signed.
www.diffen.com/difference/Agreement_vs_Contract
I don't know what he has signed with Salford or us for that matter but I would think he's signed a contract with us that will stipulate something along the lines of 'he must make himself available to play if selected', so I would think if PR selects him he could if he's only signed an agreement with Salford quite easily say in court (if it even went to court) I had to break the agreement or I would have been in breach of contract. |
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Quote: John Gilbert Reds ""As part of his release agreement that he signed with us, it was agreed that he couldn't play any competitive games against us," Koukash said.
"Gareth was fully aware of that. The discussions were with Gareth and his agent and, from what I'm hearing, Leigh were made aware of the clause. It's in black and white and agreements are made to be respected."
You cant really get much clearer than that. For all Koukash knew, Hock could have signed for another Super League club and therefore the clause makes absolute sense from a Salford perspective. If we hadn't been drawn together in the Challenge Cup this clause wouldn't have ever been discussed or known of to the general public.'"
There are differences between agreements and contracts. I can have an agreement to buy someone's house but can back out at any time up until the contracts are signed.
www.diffen.com/difference/Agreement_vs_Contract
I don't know what he has signed with Salford or us for that matter but I would think he's signed a contract with us that will stipulate something along the lines of 'he must make himself available to play if selected', so I would think if PR selects him he could if he's only signed an agreement with Salford quite easily say in court (if it even went to court) I had to break the agreement or I would have been in breach of contract. | |
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Charlie will be able to confirm or otherwise. He told me once that he went to law school and he has told me several times he knows everything.
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| Quote: salfordlad "Charlie will be able to confirm or otherwise. He told me once that he went to law school and he has told me several times he knows everything.'"
Law School  I was in the same year as The Roman Officer,Tony Cottrell,and Allan Rowley it was more like Outlaw School some Teachers entered the room with a Whip and Chair  .But I admit ,I DO know my onions ,Red ,Spring, or Spanish. |
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I think we should honour the said clause and move on. It can only further motivate a squad that is pretty well motivated to start with, to take a SL scalp.
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Marwan,has just not grasped the mistake he has made...I do feel sorry for the Salford fans.As again his interest is all for him..Probably cost you a good few grand that decision..But he will mark it up as a win for him.
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| Quote: Alan "I think we should honour the said clause and move on. It can only further motivate a squad that is pretty well motivated to start with, to take a SL scalp.'"
I agree and although 'we' haven't actually been involved in the agreement, why put the player under pressure, it would show everyone especially Hock that we are a club that continues to put their best interests first.
If played right this could be a real positive for both the club and hopefully show Hock how we treat our players and he will repay that in future performances. |
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All Leigh need to say is 'our coach picks the team as he sees fit' and leave it at that.
Unlike some clubs our coach does have the main say on playing matters so no need to engage in any of this and it will be nice to keep Salford guessing.
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Well koukash and beaumont still going at it hammer and tongue on twitter, i really do hope its sorted out. I really think we will beat them, with or without hock.
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What superb adverts for the game the pair of them are.
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Disagree..Nothing wrong with a bit of banter.
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What is the club's policy on players getting involved in 'banter' with opponents? Seem to remember Ryan being rebuked for getting involved with Marwan?
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It's hardly banter. Derek's taking a bit too far in my opinion. If he's trying to add spice to the tie then he is walking a very tight line. This could overspill both on and off the pitch.
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| Quote: THECherry&Whites "It's hardly banter. Derek's taking a bit too far in my opinion. If he's trying to add spice to the tie then he is walking a very tight line. This could overspill both on and off the pitch.'"
Which might be one good reason for Gareth to be missing this game? |
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| Quote: THECherry&Whites "It's hardly banter. Derek's taking a bit too far in my opinion. If he's trying to add spice to the tie then he is walking a very tight line. This could overspill both on and off the pitch.'"
Well at least he can speak for his self and doesn't need a sidekick like Marwan does.
Considering Derek stated he will play Hock and he'll pay the costs,throws that one open again. |
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Any clause marwan put in hocks severance package is nothing to do with us. If Rolls wants Gaz in the team, Gaz will play. Koucash has played games since 20 minutes after the draw was made by stating 'gaz wont play' . He has no right to say that. This is from a man who goes on TV, radio etc to publically slate the RFl for not allowing him to sign more marque players. Yet here is trying to stop us playing one of our marque players.
Cash for anyone who gets the following pics of Marwan at the LSV :-
when gaz runs out on the pitch
when he scores
when we win..
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