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Quote: Alan "

I don't disagree Alan , just that personally I like to know where I am starting from , when I start a journey , as well as knowing where I'm going and all the places I have to go through to get there

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Quote: Starbug "I don't disagree Alan , just that personally I like to know where I am starting from , when I start a journey , as well as knowing where I'm going and all the places I have to go through to get there'"



A bit like going to Batley. I always think I've got that journey cracked, but still get lost! icon_wink.gif

Seriously, again there are excellently qualified people working out exactly where we are starting from, just as there are excellently qualified folk trying to work out how we are going to get where we want to be.

However, in answer to those who are desperate for news of what's happening, Rome (just like Salford's new stadium icon_wink.gif ) wasn't built in a day!

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Quote: Alan "A bit like going to Batley. I always think I've got that journey cracked, but still get lost!
And the good news is that they are doing it for nowt!

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Quote: Alan "A bit like going to Batley. I always think I've got that journey cracked, but still get lost!
There is no qualification , that can prepare anybody to run a pro sports club , just my opinion , everybody is just guessing , those that end up succeeding are generaly just very lucky , or very rich to start with

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Quote: Starbug "There is no qualification , that can prepare anybody to run a pro sports club , just my opinion , everybody is just guessing , those that end up succeeding are generaly just very lucky , or very rich to start with'"



Not talking about running it - I'm talking about sorting things out, helping to put professional structures in place and making it more viable than it currently is. that's what the professional people are doing.

And that is not meant to be disrespectful to any current or former staff. I'm talking about people (all fans) who the club wouldn't have been able to afford, if they'd had to pay them the 'going rate'.

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I only hope Millward recomends the new coach or we een ask him to interview the Candidates as i dread to think who the "board" would select, Hows Winstons Leg these days and he has his own Bike pmsl

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LSV receive 10% of the gate money, an average of 2500 means we get 2250. Most clubs in the Championship average less than 2250 so why do we have a problem???

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10% minus VAT and Income tax plus not all are full price paying i.e. concessions and kids, and nearly all clubs if not all in the championship have a problem

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Quote: FredParky "10% minus VAT and Income tax plus not all are full price paying i.e. concessions and kids, and nearly all clubs if not all in the championship have a problem'"

Not to mention season ticket holders, kids for free, RL passholders etc.

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I think the point being made was that the lsv were robbing us blind and thats not the case is it.

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Quote: j.c "I think the point being made was that the lsv were robbing us blind and thats not the case is it.'"

Well the set up at the LSV means that we don't have any access to the secondary income that must surely play a big part at other clubs.

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Quote: Starbug "I don't disagree Alan , just that [sizepersonally I like to know where I am starting from , when I start a journey , as well as knowing where I'm going[/size and all the places I have to go through to get there'"


It's like when we once asked directions in Ireland:

Driving down a country lane, completely lost - spots a farmer type coming up the lane toward us. Winds the window down, and asks " 'scuse me. Could you tell us how to get to Ballyglunin?"

He scratches his chin thoughtfully then says "So - it's Ballyglunin you're after is it?...............well, if I was you I wouldn't start from here!!" icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: j.c "I think the point being made was that the lsv were robbing us blind and thats not the case is it.'"


As Matt says , it isn't a case of the cost of playing at the LSV , it's the loss of income that is the problem

Advertising , concession sales , less corporate profit combined with higher cost to corporate customers , loss of merchandise sales due to cost of space rental

All these things add up to a sizeable ( 100 K plus ) loss of income per season since moving into the LSV

Combine that with a disasterous 1 st season , more TV games on Thursday nights with the associated lower attendances , lower profile opposition since SL expanded to 14 ( similar situation next year with the loss of Widnes ) and you're over 200 K down on where we were 3/4 years ago , so where do we find £ 200,000 extra a year ?

1,200 fans at £ 10 per head for 14 home games with associated extra sales of merchandise ,LISA and Lottery and you've just about broke even and looking at a max salary cap spend and all the preferred coaches and junior projects

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And the conclusion i come to is,its always someone elses fault.

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Quote: j.c "And the conclusion i come to is,its always someone elses fault.'"


Not someones elses fault jc , just that as your circumstances change , you have to change with them , we didn't/haven't , now we have to , just that we have less time , resources and general appeal to help us now , but it still has to be done

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