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| Quote: thecrab "Neutral opinion......
Leigh knew the risk of being relegated at the time they were negotiating the contracts with Paul, Bibey etc
Leigh also knew the salary cap for CC1 at that time should the worst happen.
Having signed the contracts, Leigh obviously now need to fulfil their obligations.
Leigh can either try to meet the salary cap by buying some very cheap players.
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Leigh can continue and go over the salary cap.
The RFL should then make the appropriate ruling and dock points and / or impose a fine.
I have no sympathy for Leigh at all and find it arrogant that Leigh should ask for a dispensation thus creating an unlevel playing field in CC1 as a direct result of Leigh taking risks on the hope of staying up.
These were your risks so face the consequences.'"
No problem with that.
But lets have it right across the board.
Toulouse knew they would break the overseas quota by being in the Championship, the RFL gave them a dispensation - the minute they did that was the minute the RFL left themselves wide open.
Gateshead stayed up playing with a different player quota to Leigh , the minute you do that is the minute you leave yourself wide open as a governing body.
There is no room for the 'good of the game' if its your club/ business that loses finance, sponsors and support just because of it where it happens to play its RL.
For me the cap and quota should be scrapped, I want to see the best players at my club, couldn't give a toss if they are from Leigh or Brisbane.
I would prefer local players but if 'local' means a lower league for my club and my social time /enjoyment , then I'm sorry bring me a team full of Aussies playing for Leigh anyday, if its good for 1 club its good for them all.
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| Quote: lobbys & pies "what isn't good for us now, is that teams like saints & wigan won't want their u21s players being loaned out to us to get 1st team experience, because champ1 is not good quality experience for them. no insult ment by this to champ1 teams. but realisticly its true,
the sl u21s games are better quality.'"
The rules are changing from next season. A raft of young guns from SL teams will be available to other clubs because the reserves and academy teams are being merged into an under 20s team. Each club will only be allowed to play up to three over 20s in that team (as reservists). So anyone over 20 not signed up to the first team will be free to go wherever. I would imagine there will be more loan agreements available as a result because there are bound to be players that SL clubs would like to retain, possibly considering future squad changes, but they can no longer keep them at the club once they pass 20 years old. So both Championship and Championship 1 teams may benefit, given their now more restrictive salary caps.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "The rules are changing from next season. A raft of young guns from SL teams will be available to other clubs because the reserves and academy teams are being merged into an under 20s team. Each club will only be allowed to play up to three over 20s in that team (as reservists). So anyone over 20 not signed up to the first team will be free to go wherever. I would imagine there will be more loan agreements available as a result because there are bound to be players that SL clubs would like to retain, possibly considering future squad changes, but they can no longer keep them at the club once they pass 20 years old. So both Championship and Championship 1 teams may benefit, given their now more restrictive salary caps.'"
We, in the Championship, have seen the reality of loan agreements, thank you. Widnes had Hall from Hull, and Penney and Pickersgill from Warrington. Leigh had Hemingway from Huddersfield. They were bedded nicely into their respective Championship clubs, when Warrington and Huddersfield called their players back, so they could field weakened teams before Wembley. What of Widnes and Leigh? Well, they got the players match fit for the SL clubs and were then left with gaping holes in their squads, at a critical stage of the season.
Let the SL clubs keep their own squad players fit, thank you!
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| Quote: Herald "We should just spend as we like and f**k the salary cap like the rest...'"
Except that now it is a 'live' cap and monitored every month then you'll be docked points at the time you breach it. In season's gone by you could have done it and took the points deduction the next season, but not now. So if the club 'spend as we like' then the RFL will 'deduct points as they like'.
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| It is not relevant, tomorrow we will see Bramley in C1 and Leigh granted a reprieve.
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| Quote: maurice "It is not relevant, tomorrow we will see Bramley in C1 and Leigh granted a reprieve.'"
Stop it
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| Quote: Derwent "Except that now it is a 'live' cap and monitored every month then you'll be docked points at the time you breach it. In season's gone by you could have done it and took the points deduction the next season, but not now. So if the club 'spend as we like' then the RFL will 'deduct points as they like'.'"
if the maximum they can deduct is 6..we will win the league by more than 6 so infact it would be less of a penalty than deducting it when we are back in the Championship..
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| Quote: mapleyther "if the maximum they can deduct is 6..we will win the league by more than 6 so infact it would be less of a penalty than deducting it when we are back in the Championship..
many were predicting this last season!!
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| Quote: billieleyther "many were predicting this last season!!'"
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| Quote: mapleyther "if the maximum they can deduct is 6..we will win the league by more than 6 so infact it would be less of a penalty than deducting it when we are back in the Championship..
What he means is you'd get docked 6 points each time! Feb - Sept that's 8 months so planning on winning the league by 48 points?
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| I hardly think this would happen - so they are going to have effectively a monthly salary cap, with a monthly audit from the goons at Red Hall?
How would they know if you have broken an annual cap half way through the season? What happens if you overspend one month and underspend the next month - do you get some of your points back?
I don't think so..
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| At least 12 of those players have not on been on the books for sometime now, Barrow took over the 5 oldham players contracts which were at NL2 salary cap so wont be high as people may think.
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| Quote: vikings 4 ever "Apparantly Barrow have 49 players on their books
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Did Dewsbury have special dispensation ? NOPE So why should you ? Your Chairman should have got his head out of his ar*e and realised what was happening. He has been very clever in signing these big money players up before going to the RFL with his begging bowl. The RFL should be ashamed of themselves if they give you dispensation from the cap. A Top notch Stadium doesn't give you the right to anything, What you need to do is sign excellent quality Championship 1 players (which I don't see you struggling to do) and do what Dewsbury have done, whilst remaining within the rules - The amount of respect you would gain from that will be priceless. Think about it, you could have any player in Championship 1 as well as some decent loan players which would get you straight back up to The Championship at the first attempt.
The RFL auditors will find any irregularities at Barrow if there are any but I seriously doubt it will happen - Why put in all this hard work to p*ss the RFL off and go against the criterea for a franchise - Doesn't make sense to me !
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