What you empty head fax fans fail to understand Leigh Centurions are no worse off today finishing 8th in the middle 8's than finishing 5th.

The throwing of matches at the end of the season had no impact on us in fact they just motivated everyone connected to the club even more!!

As a Leigh fan, here is my spin on things.

Winning the league now means Jack**** ! The value of that means nothing due to the middle 8's for which we finished rock bottom and lost £400k as a result of it. The fixtures didn't help us one bit, but that second half against Hull KR lost us the lot in my opinion !

The format of the middle 8's need changing. I think Beaumont has a strong case to be heard on that perspective. If other teams want to stay PT, that up to them, but teams like Halifax will always be difficult to play against, irrespective of Status and good on them.

I hope team and game management change next year. If it does, we will do fine. Against better teams, Leigh can look very ordinary defensively. No plan B resulted in playing conservative Rugby for which we are not drilled or fit enough yet to play.

If we have a plan B next season, we will be fine and all this pre season banter will be History. Leigh will be far better prepared mentally and physically.

Good luck to one and all, because this season is going to be really competitive !

Only the small matter of about 300k? Im really sure Degsy can afford to make that up with little worry. He's a business man, if you think he has not had sleepless nights thinking about that sort of money you are a bigger clown than you normally make out.

Pretty much nailed it pal

Let's just take each game as it comes rather than be over confident like last year and slate other teams like Halifax and Sheffield who both finished above us in the middle eights and completely shut us up. Or you could slate other teams if you wanted but don't start crying because you can give it but can't take it when we get over confident and think we've won something before its even happened and we get the Micky took out of us.

For example middle eights Halifax away talking about how we would go 4th when we won before the game even kicked off only to be absolutley outplayed off the field.

Yes I am a Leigh fan but I will say it how it is its about time we started respecting opposition. Let's go about out business quietly because of it all goes tits up half of you can't take the banter

If you cant take dont give....

we will get promoted!!

no you wont

The only thing I will offer on the above, is, we finished where we did because we did not perform well enough but also instrumental was the throwing of games in the last week of the 8s by Wakey and Bradford (I think it was Bradford). We would still only have finished 7th I think.

Its probably no consolation but Fax would have beat Bradford's full team anyway. Lowes knew it which is why he couldnt have that happen and have his team go in to the million pound game on the back of a defeat to a Championship side that was nowhere near good enough to get to that game.

What are you taking Il have some off it

...and here was me expecting to read a debate on Josh Charney.

Dear oh dear some love the sound of their own keyboards

Josh Charney now cmon you Leighers why oh why would Josh want to drop a division and come to Leigh he is an international Win ger who plays in front of 10,000 plus crowds with good money get real and stop believing the hype.