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| outside of leigh there would be very few people who would nominate des drummond in any sort of 'best of' compilation. he was ok but nothing special. it probably says more about the leigh club that the likes of des and john woods are held in such high esteem whereas at other more successful clubs they would be seen as no more than half decent. i've been watching the game for 30+ years (and i know there are people who've been watching the game a lot longer) but even in my time of watching the game dessie was not a 'stand out' player. offiah on the other hand is far and away the most special winger of his generation. with regards to comparing players of different eras, it's impossible as the game is constantly evolving and suits different size/style of players at different times
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| Quote hoofhearted="hoofhearted"outside of leigh there would be very few people who would nominate des drummond in any sort of 'best of' compilation. he was ok but nothing special. it probably says more about the leigh club that the likes of des and john woods are held in such high esteem whereas at other more successful cleubs they would be seen as no more than half decent. i've been watching the game for 30+ years (and i know there are people who've been watching the game a lot longer) but even in my time of watching the game dessie was not a 'stand out' player. offiah on the other hand is far and away the most special winger of his generation. with regards to comparing players of different eras, it's impossible as the game is constantly evolving and suits different size/style of players at different times'"
I can only assume this is a wind up on a quiet night.
The views of the Leigh fans are based on the exceptional performances we witnessed.
If you talk to any genuine wire or northern fans they will tell you the same.
Offiah was a class act great hands and rapid pace plus he had the benefit of starting with another class leyther Darren Wright.
I did see Dessie chase Offiah down and give him a clatteringe.Dessie only came to the game late really makes his achievment even better.
Woody.No comment needed.
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| Quote kirkhall="kirkhall"Well in my opinion, I'd prefer Des in my team before Billy. Billy played against much lighter players and his 'crash tackling' wasn't as spectacular as Dessie's! Des was also faster
Offiah is perhaps the best winger in my opinion.'"
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| Drummond also excelled for Warrington or is that conveniently forgotten.
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| Well I don't give a s4ite what the pie fans think (or some of our own  ) - Dessie over Offiah anyday.
By the way - Dessie was OURS from the start. Was Offiah Wi@ans? 
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| Des Drummond (Career): Games - 182 Tries - 69
Martin Offiah (Widnes): Games - 145 Tries - 181
Martin Offiah (Wigan): Games - 158 Tries - 186
...And Drummond was the better player?
Probably one of the worst anti-Wigan suggestions I've heard on RLFANS.
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"Des Drummond (Career): Games - 182 Tries - 69
Martin Offiah (Widnes): Games - 145 Tries - 181
Martin Offiah (Wigan): Games - 158 Tries - 186
...And Drummond was the better player?
Probably one of the worst anti-Wigan suggestions I've heard on RLFANS.'"
In fairness Alex, being a winger isn't [ijust[/i about tryscoring. Indeed, a lot of the memories I read on here about Drummond are related to his defence rather than purely his tryscoring exploits.
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| Quote Leyther_Matt="Leyther_Matt"In fairness Alex, being a winger isn't [ijust[/i about tryscoring. Indeed, a lot of the memories I read on here about Drummond are related to his defence rather than purely his tryscoring exploits.'"
Going off that logic, put Gary Connolly at wing and he'd be better than both.
Oh, Jason Robinson was better than Drummond too. 
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"Des Drummond (Career): Games - 182 Tries - 69
Martin Offiah (Widnes): Games - 145 Tries - 181
Martin Offiah (Wigan): Games - 158 Tries - 186
...And Drummond was the better player?
Probably one of the worst anti-Wigan suggestions I've heard on RLFANS.'"
Yes but everyone knows how the pies cheated,lied and robbed the rest of RL and their own breed to allow MO to achieve those stats and that it all ended in tears and a new tesco!
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| Quote hoofhearted="hoofhearted"outside of leigh there would be very few people who would nominate des drummond in any sort of 'best of' compilation. he was ok but nothing special. it probably says more about the leigh club that the likes of des and john woods are held in such high esteem whereas at other more successful clubs they would be seen as no more than half decent. i've been watching the game for 30+ years (and i know there are people who've been watching the game a lot longer) but even in my time of watching the game dessie was not a 'stand out' player. offiah on the other hand is far and away the most special winger of his generation. with regards to comparing players of different eras, it's impossible as the game is constantly evolving and suits different size/style of players at different times'"
Woody 'half decent'  May I suggest you try watching for the next thirty years with your eyes open.
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| And played in a team that was head and shoulders above the rest for a good few years.
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| Quote Woody 'half decent' May I suggest you try watching for the next thirty years with your eyes open.'"
thanks for that, you've just proved my point, and i'm not a wiganer but i do watch a lot of games as a NEUTRAL every year and always have done. john woods was a goalkicker, i'd rank him slightly higher than shirley hesford as a player in this respect. nowhere outside of leigh is he talked about as a class act.
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