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Quote: mr. chairman "poorly advised by who , we have a player welfare manager don't we'"


I don't think it comes under welfare ? more like the Legal guy who joined us ?

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Or are the RFL , like refs and pundits still presuming we are a Part time Championship team that has moved up to SL and therefore are cheating to survive

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Chris Houston ran into ref v Warrington. No Ban No Fine well done RFL Hypocrits

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Quote: Leythersteve "Chris Houston ran into ref v Warrington. No Ban No Fine well done RFL Hypocrits'"


Totally agreed Steve, Greg thought he was stopping a potential try (even though the kick went dead) and he shoved the ex marine (top bloke, but not a SL ref).
So Chris Houston has 2 charges from the Warrington game. Attempted tackle on Ashton Sims by pulling his 'pony tail' and then 'runs into the ref' when he didn't need to. So for the 'ref' challenge, grade D charge, pleads not guilty and is not banned/and only a caution for the Sims challenge.......no suspension. Greg 'pushed' the Ref thinking he was preventing him to 'save a try' 2 game ban !!!
Seriously this is pathetic, who can investigate the RFL disciplinary's decisions ? NOBODY. I know on the 'review panel' they have 2 ex players (one being Neil Turley sometimes) and 1 former referee.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "Totally agreed Steve, Greg thought he was stopping a potential try (even though the kick went dead) and he shoved the ex marine (top bloke, but not a SL ref).
So Chris Houston has 2 charges from the Warrington game. Attempted tackle on Ashton Sims by pulling his 'pony tail' and then 'runs into the ref' when he didn't need to. So for the 'ref' challenge, grade D charge, pleads not guilty and is not banned/and only a caution for the Sims challenge.......no suspension. Greg 'pushed' the Ref thinking he was preventing him to 'save a try' 2 game ban !!!
Seriously this is pathetic, who can investigate the RFL disciplinary's decisions ? NOBODY. I know on the 'review panel' they have 2 ex players (one being Neil Turley sometimes) and 1 former referee.'"



Not disagreeing with anything you say, except McNally knocked the ball dead, after getting the ref out of the way. Had he not removed the ref, he probably wouldn't have been able to make the ball dead, and Salford may have scored.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "
Seriously this is pathetic, who can investigate the RFL disciplinary's decisions ? NOBODY. I know on the 'review panel' they have 2 ex players (one being Neil Turley sometimes) and 1 former referee.'"


Your knowledge is wrong, there are no former referees on the panel, the third member is from the legal profession.

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Quote: reffy "Your knowledge is wrong, there are no former referees on the panel, the third member is from the legal profession.'"


OK Mr expert, what about the rest of my post.

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If Houghton had not pleaded not guilty and presented his case to the panel he would have been banned for 4 games, if McNally had done the same he would not have been banned for 3 games.(IMHO) He admitted guilt and got the 3 reduced to 2.

One player took on the system and won the other didn't.

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Everyone is surely missing the point here.

There was no hearing or case for the defence to be heard as Gregg McNally pleaded guilty early.

Houston defended his charge and the panel ruled in his favour as they would have done for McNally. Simple as that.

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Quote: reffy "If Houghton had not pleaded not guilty and presented his case to the panel he would have been banned for 4 games, if McNally had done the same he would not have been banned for 3 games.(IMHO) He admitted guilt and got the 3 reduced to 2.

One player took on the system and won the other didn't.'"


You beat me to it, by a matter of seconds.

100% Correct.

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Chris Houston's steamroller obviously carried mitigating circumstances and deemed unpreventable/unavoidable collision. Neither deliberate or reckless. Gregg didn't have any mitigating circumstances he was deemed to have deliberate contact. The problem is the charge,two different scenarios but the same charge.There is no rule for moving a ref who is obstructing play other than deliberate contact.
This is the stuff that needs to be addressed by the desiplinary review group that was set up.

www.rugby-league.com/article/390 ... ed-by-rfl-
Chris Houston's steamroller obviously carried mitigating circumstances and deemed unpreventable/unavoidable collision. Neither deliberate or reckless. Gregg didn't have any mitigating circumstances he was deemed to have deliberate contact. The problem is the charge,two different scenarios but the same charge.There is no rule for moving a ref who is obstructing play other than deliberate contact.
This is the stuff that needs to be addressed by the desiplinary review group that was set up.

www.rugby-league.com/article/390 ... ed-by-rfl-


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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "Everyone is surely missing the point here.

There was no hearing or case for the defence to be heard as Gregg McNally pleaded guilty early.

Houston defended his charge and the panel ruled in his favour as they would have done for McNally. Simple as that.'"


Do we/you know who advised Gregg to submit the Guilty plea? There is absolutely no disputing Gregg came into contact with the Ref! Don't forget Gregg couldn't shout; get out of the f@@k@@g way, because, he would have been binned for foul and abusive language as his colleague Gaz Hock had, the previous week!
The correct way to address the Referee is; excuse me sir, would you mind awfully moving! It seem to work for Sargent Wilson in Dads Army, didn't it icon_lol.gif

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Quote: kirkhall "Do we/you know who advised Gregg to submit the Guilty plea? There is absolutely no disputing Gregg came into contact with the Ref! Don't forget Gregg couldn't shout; get out of the f@@k@@g way, because, he would have been binned for foul and abusive language as his colleague Gaz Hock had, the previous week!
The correct way to address the Referee is; excuse me sir, would you mind awfully moving! It seem to work for Sargent Wilson in Dads Army, didn't it
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On a serious note, I have no idea who advised Gregg but it is yet another body missing for the Hull KR match on Saturday.

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I agree with the not coming into contact with the ref in normal circumstances, but he's in the middle of 26 men.playing a tough game pumped on adrenilin. So surely he should know to keep out of the way of running players. Or keeping a safe distance

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Who advised Gregg to plead guilty?

Quote: Bent&Bongser "Having now seen this, Bongser thinks it would be ridiculous to use the EGP - it gives no chance for sense to prevail. '"


'Twas not Bongser. He does, however, think that the advice from the club may have been based upon the expectation of a two to three game suspension. EGP reduces that to one or two. CCup game that nobody in Leigh wants or cares about either negates it completely or contains the damage to a single match.

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