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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "That was also my observation through out. Quite a few wearing red and white are simply not up to top 4 Championship required standard and the table does not lie does it?

For how long we are going to persevere with both Reynolds and Hutchison at 6 & 7 is anyone's guess. There is more pace in front row forwards Greg Richards and James Green than Leigh's halves.

Scott Murell proved though you don't need to have pace to influence a game. He was easily the best player out there today. He orchestrated everything today, a very talented player still, with a sublime kicking game. If you offered us your clever 6 in exchange for ours now for the run in, I would literally snatch your hand off. A 6 with a rugby brain.


If only we could find a club foolish enough to take over Jamie Actons highly lucrative contract. Fat chance would be a fine thing. He is totally flogging a living. Respecting the ball for one would be a start.

No leadership, no pace, no kicking game, no creativity and in some unacceptably no or not enough desire*. Exactly why we constantly throw away winning positions.


*Liam Hood excluded.'"


I was praying for Hood to replace Hutchison when he came on for his second stint, so Mortimer could play in the halves.

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Quote: LeythIg "I was praying for Hood to replace Hutchison when he came on for his second stint, so Mortimer could play in the halves.'"


WOW, I was screaming exactly the same.

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Quote: Vancouver Leyther "Sounds like we didn’t play very well but that is 11 wins from the last 12 league games.'"

We didn’t play particularly well VL. We looked lethargic in both attack and defence. I think the previous two games have taken a lot out of the squad both physically and mentally and it showed today. Fax are a decent side but we made them look better than they are. We had the opportunity to build some confidence and help our points differences today and nearly blew it. I suppose it’s a sign of a good side when they can play poorly and still win.

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Quote: THECherry&Whites "We didn’t play particularly well VL. We looked lethargic in both attack and defence. I think the previous two games have taken a lot out of the squad both physically and mentally and it showed today. Fax are a decent side but we made them look better than they are. We had the opportunity to build some confidence and help our points differences today and nearly blew it. I suppose it’s a sign of a good side when they can play poorly and still win.'"


If the last two games have taken a lot out of them, then today won't exactly energise them for next week. Thought Gregson did well, I think it's time for another forward or two to come in from the fringes next week

On the subject of new recruits, shame we couldn't go in for Moss when he was available. A new fb would all Owens to go back to the wing which will give the option of playing Hall at half back

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Quote: THECherry&Whites "We didn’t play particularly well VL. We looked lethargic in both attack and defence. I think the previous two games have taken a lot out of the squad both physically and mentally and it showed today. Fax are a decent side but we made them look better than they are. We had the opportunity to build some confidence and help our points differences today and nearly blew it. I suppose it’s a sign of a good side when they can play poorly and still win.'"


You won and well done for that, but you seriously think you made us look better than we are just because you had a couple of tough games (we had a momentous one against Fev in Blackpool). You didn't play poorly, it was a cracking game of rugby league which you edged at the end.

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“For how long we are going to persevere with both Reynolds and Hutchison at 6 & 7 is anyone's guess. There is more pace in front row forwards Greg Richards and James Green than Leigh's halves.”

I obviously didn’t see the game but listening I heard Murrels name more than Reynolds and Hutchy put together, but I’m betting they both put in way more tackles than the Fax halves with all the dropped balls and penalties we gave away. I see this on LCTV week in, week out and it must take away from their energy levels in every game.
I’m not saying I disagree with you HRJ but is this now too late to make a change if we are to make the 8s ?
And that is an honest question that I am very interested to see your opinion on as I gather you see many training sessions from your valued and informatively posts.
Do we stay as we are until the easier last 3 games before the 8s and then try it, or do we roll the dice and do it now.

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Quote: HXSparky "You won and well done for that, but you seriously think you made us look better than we are just because you had a couple of tough games (we had a momentous one against Fev in Blackpool). You didn't play poorly, it was a cracking game of rugby league which you edged at the end.'"

We did play poorly, that is probably the worst we’ve played since KP took over. It was a good game for the neutral but having watched this team grow since Kieron got to grips with them,this wasn’t the same team we have seen in recent weeks. No disrespect to Halifax but we should be beating them by 30. Hopefully Derek will bring a couple of fresh faces in over the next couple of weeks and Kieron gets that defence back to how it was.

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Quote: THECherry&Whites "We did play poorly, that is probably the worst we’ve played since KP took over. It was a good game for the neutral but having watched this team grow since Kieron got to grips with them,this wasn’t the same team we have seen in recent weeks. No disrespect to Halifax but we should be beating them by 30. Hopefully Derek will bring a couple of fresh faces in over the next couple of weeks and Kieron gets that defence back to how it was.'"


Not sure why, but our best two performances of the season have been against Leigh. One we won and one we lost. You're a little delusional to think that you "should" be beating us by 30. If so, you'd be on 32 points already and already plotting the downfall of 4 SL teams along with a top 4 SL campaign next season.

You played "poorly" because Fax made it so.

All the best, and I hope we're both in the M8's.

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Quote: Vancouver Leyther "HRJ wrote
“For how long we are going to persevere with both Reynolds and Hutchison at 6 & 7 is anyone's guess. There is more pace in front row forwards Greg Richards and James Green than Leigh's halves.”

I obviously didn’t see the game but listening I heard Murrels name more than Reynolds and Hutchy put together, but I’m betting they both put in way more tackles than the Fax halves with all the dropped balls and penalties we gave away. I see this on LCTV week in, week out and it must take away from their energy levels in every game.
I’m not saying I disagree with you HRJ but is this now too late to make a change if we are to make the 8s ?
And that is an honest question that I am very interested to see your opinion on as I gather you see many training sessions from your valued and informatively posts.
Do we stay as we are until the easier last 3 games before the 8s and then try it, or do we roll the dice and do it now.'"


I have said it all season VL, Reynolds and Hutchison are two very similar halves, both in stature and style, both their games rely heavilly on runners. Very easy for the opposition to nullify IMHO.

We are badly lacking creativity in that department to unlock defences. In answer to your question, yes I would move Hall into 6 now to at least to try and ignite a spark.

I take your work ethic point,but who signs defensive half backs first and foremost ?

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "I have said it all season VL, Reynolds and Hutchison are two very similar halves, both in stature and style, both their games rely heavilly on runners. Very easy for the opposition to nullify IMHO.

We are badly lacking creativity in that department to unlock defences. In answer to your question, yes I would move Hall into 6 now to at least to try and ignite a spark.

I take your work ethic point,but who signs defensive half backs first and foremost ?'"


We would need to bring a full back or a 3/4 in to move Hall into the halves. Unless the coach has any confidence in Bergal.

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Quote: HXSparky "Not sure why, but our best two performances of the season have been against Leigh. One we won and one we lost. You're a little delusional to think that you "should" be beating us by 30. If so, you'd be on 32 points already and already plotting the downfall of 4 SL teams along with a top 4 SL campaign next season.

You played "poorly" because Fax made it so.

All the best, and I hope we're both in the M8's.'"


Don't subscribe to the idea that we should be winning by 30, but for as good as Fax were, Leigh should've done a better job of keeping hold of the ball. Every set seemed to end with either a try or a knock on! But fair play to fax for forcing the majority of those errors.

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Quote: HXSparky "Not sure why, but our best two performances of the season have been against Leigh. One we won and one we lost. You're a little delusional to think that you "should" be beating us by 30. If so, you'd be on 32 points already and already plotting the downfall of 4 SL teams along with a top 4 SL campaign next season.

You played "poorly" because Fax made it so.

All the best, and I hope we're both in the M8's.'"

Look mate, my comments are not made to be disrespectful to Halifax or try to get a rise from the Fax fans. I have watched every game these lads have played and I can honestly say that this is the best group of players we have put together for years. It could comfortably compete in Super League but we have had a lot of crap going on off the field that has disrupted what has been going on on the field. That team today were not at the races based on what they can do. You have seen the worst of Leigh on two occasions this season, they are a lot better than that.

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Quote: LeythIg "We would need to bring a full back or a 3/4 in to move Hall into the halves. Unless the coach has any confidence in Bergal.'"


I think we have to. Bailey Crooks Evans and Bergal. Until Pete is back.

But we won't.

Question is are we all busting a gut to make top 4 just to make the middle 8 numbers up or do we want to get top 4 and have a serious crack at unlocking SL teams.

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Quote: THECherry&Whites "Look mate, my comments are not made to be disrespectful to Halifax or try to get a rise from the Fax fans. I have watched every game these lads have played and I can honestly say that this is the best group of players we have put together for years. It could comfortably compete in Super League but we have had a lot of crap going on off the field that has disrupted what has been going on on the field. That team today were not at the races based on what they can do. You have seen the worst of Leigh on two occasions this season, they are a lot better than that.'"


Ok. I hope we get the chance to cross swords again in the M8's.

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Quote: Vancouver Leyther "HRJ wrote
“For how long we are going to persevere with both Reynolds and Hutchison at 6 & 7 is anyone's guess. There is more pace in front row forwards Greg Richards and James Green than Leigh's halves.”

I obviously didn’t see the game but listening I heard Murrels name more than Reynolds and Hutchy put together, but I’m betting they both put in way more tackles than the Fax halves with all the dropped balls and penalties we gave away. I see this on LCTV week in, week out and it must take away from their energy levels in every game.
I’m not saying I disagree with you HRJ but is this now too late to make a change if we are to make the 8s ?
And that is an honest question that I am very interested to see your opinion on as I gather you see many training sessions from your valued and informatively posts.
Do we stay as we are until the easier last 3 games before the 8s and then try it, or do we roll the dice and do it now.'"


We should give Sammut what he wants.

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