Good call Kiyan..

Scraped ? What are you on....1 defeat 1 draw in the league, the strolled it in the middle 8's !!! I'm not surprised we are in the bottom 4, but our (lack of defence) is a bit worrying. Anyway, what will be, will be.

Try and stay calm Cokey, ColD loves an argument, even though we all support the same team. At least we don't live with him....

Patterson (a forward ) at centre while no place for Hampshire or McNally (both backs )is an utter joke.We have the slowest backs in SL already so to put a forward in among them is idiotic.Also if the 3 stooges( our so called ) coaches don't want Riddy playing for us it shows how little nous they have.Could put up with shipping 30 odd points a game against the top teams but we are shipping them against teams we could play in the 8s

We will be in the poop if we are really struggling in the M8s. Them 7 games will determine if we play SL next year

Did you work this out all by yourself?

Think you need give your head a wobble if you dont think they count , so you think its ok to lose ?..dont perform for the fans

No,I took inferences from your post.

After calming down a little bit I thought I would put what I really thought of last night/ the season. Last night the effort was not there, the coaching staff and players can say what they like but there was no fire in belly's except from maybe 5 minutes in the 2nd half.

That team that was out there last night is good enough to stay up and is good enough to go to Warrington and get a result ( look at when they came to our place). I'm not buying this "it doesn't matter until the 8s", every game matters in rugby league especially when your fans/Derek are paying your wages.

For the first time this season I really am concerned we will go down and we deserve that at the minute. Is it too late to sack Jukes? Will Derek's loyalty potentially send us down? If last night is all we have left in the tank then we are doomed as i think the top 2/3 in the championship would have beat us last night.

Our last three defeats have come against the teams who are almost certain to be in the Middle 8's with us. Two of those defeats - against Warrington and Widnes - have been comprehensive, and embarrassing. It's worth remembering that those three games have been against teams who have been struggling all season - that's why they are in the bottom four with us.

I don't hold with the theory that we are 'saving' ourselves, or simply waiting, for the Middle 8's. A lot of this game is about confidence, and ours mysteriously evaporated in the second half at Wakefield, all those months ago. The same coaching team were in charge for those games against Saints, Warrington and Huddersfield, that we won convincingly. It's too late to change them now.

We simply have to show some form in our next two games, or I really fear the worst in the '8's', even against the four Championship sides.

I remember after the Wigan game there was a revival and we would finish in top 8 a lot of people on here are deluded and need to take the blinkers off we are just not quite good enough for the division simple as that