Maybe not but its managed to do away with one horse races and periods of dominance from clubs that just spend more than anyone else like what happened with Wigan in the 80s and early 90s.

The comp as a whole in SL is competitive with smaller clubs able to compete and in HKRs case reach major finals. As Cas have shown with patience and professional management team, a ambitious coach and a long term development ethos bringing through talent year on year you can be competitive at the highest level without breaking the bank or being a so called "big club".

Andy I agree 100% with every word you say , we don't want to go back to the days of Wigan winning 8 CC Finals on the trot ,even some Wigan fans got bored with that , look at Cas last night ,Darryl Powell has showed what can be achieved .

If it were up to me Daryl Powell would be coaching England mate.

He had a period of dominance in the Championship with Fev then picked up the mess Millward left behind at Cas and quickly turned it round. Despite having some of his better players cherry picked every year by bigger clubs he keeps them competitive and the brand of RL they play lives up to the name "Classy Cas".

some fair points but little clubs where busy winning titles and challenge cups before the salary cap into fore not just competing.

Halifax and Leigh 2 clubs who won the title in the 80's.

Featherstone, Hull KR 2 clubs who won the cup in the 80's.

During Wigans dominance Widnes won the league more than once.

Salary cap just hasnt worked at any level.

At the elite level its helped to force star players out of the game.

In Wigans dominant period we had the most competitive national side and more publicity nationwide as we have ever had.

Players were household names...

You say we haven't been good enough,so really, we need better players which would cost more.

Then you're saying you are sick of hearing excuses about the salary cap. A bit of contradiction there.

My point is that the salary cap should be increased in the leagues out side of SL to make a bit more of a level playing field. Also the transfer deadline should be looked at.

I agree. In the current system promotion to SL is just an illusion, a scrap thrown down by the RFL to try and make the competitions mean something at the back end of the season.

There's a live cap system in place to prevent clubs overspending. Why not take the average salary of the bottom 4 SL clubs (as although the have the right to spend £1.8 million, I'm not convinced they all are) and allow Championship clubs who can prove they have the income to support that level of salary be allowed to pay that much.

Also, the signing deadline needs to be moved to much earlier in the season, I'd suggest around May time as that will prevent clubs signing a brand new side the week before the middle 8's start and produce a more level playing field come the middle 8 competition.

Can't argue with that.

Derek , maybe the Salary Cap should be increased ,nowt wrong with that what worries me is if we blatantly ignore the Cap and sign whichever player we can , it's great for the Fans to get to see the best players but you can't just ignore the rules, look what happened at Barrow when Dessie was ruling them, he overspent .the Club was punished ,the rest is History, I wouldn't want that for our great club.
And what would happen if we were allowed to overspend,then heaven forbid for some reason Derek decided he wanted out,who would pay the players large contracts then?I admire Derek for wanting the best at Leigh, I've already mentioned some players to you, but at what price?

Richard Marshall at Fax with less than half our cap spend and without FT staff and players has managed to equal our achievements in the eights so far and turn us over also. Not heard him bleating about our significant advantages we have over them he's just got on with it.]

In summary and in my opinion we have haven't been good enough on the whole in this eights series and im pretty sure Derek and Paul know this and id suggest with or without reinforcements must improve next year if we want to do better surely?

The answer in life isn't always to throw money at a problem.

With the above said win tomorrow and remarkably we still have a chance!!!!

PS I agree regards the transfer deadline.

Just a point on the salary cap, no where in the article in the MEN does Derek say we will break it nor is he quoted. Re-read what is actually written.

Well said Ste, And also for SRW1996, I never mentioned breaking the salary cap in my post either.

I never said you did pal.

No you didn't. You just said you was sick of hearing excuses about the salary cap. What excuses?

Quote: Cokey "[sizeNo you didn't.[/size You just said you was sick of hearing excuses about the salary cap. What excuses?'" Thanks for clarifying that. sportinglife.aol.co.uk/rugby-lea ... n-reaction "The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for Championship clubs."

Quote: Cokey "[sizeNo you didn't.[/size You just said you was sick of hearing excuses about the salary cap. What excuses?'" Thanks for clarifying that. sportinglife.aol.co.uk/rugby-lea ... n-reaction "The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for Championship clubs."

Quote: SRW1996 " Thanks for clarifying that. sportinglife.aol.co.uk/rugby-lea ... n-reaction "The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for Championship clubs." So what is your point?

Quote: SRW1996 " Thanks for clarifying that. sportinglife.aol.co.uk/rugby-lea ... n-reaction "The Super League club's finances have a bit to do with it but it's proving an impossible dream at the moment for Championship clubs." So what is your point?