That would be the one with Fax, Bradford and Leigh all finishing on 4 pts. All being said we are no longer favourites for that million pound game. This has been a grim few weeks for the club as a whole.

Hardly the end of the world though is it!! Been if far worse situation than this over the years.
The biggest disappointment for me is how we don't seem to have learned much during the play offs, that said it all seems a bit much for Champ teams in general - hopefully all the better for it this time next year.

Bradford beat one SL team, we should have beaten 2. The qualifiers are and we're always going to be a different beast to the league. Unfortunately we have approached it as a continuation of the league. The difference should have been spotted very early on and I actually think we will be very very lucky to finish 5th.

I don't think we've learned much that we didn't know already. Anyone who watches Super League regularly can see that the extra money on offer gets a better standard of player, and more of them.
All of the Bulls preferred starting 17 have recent Super League experience( or NRL) but it's obvious that that isn't enough in itself.............They all become de -skilled in a short period of time as we have been light years away from the standard required as shown by Wakefield, Widnes and Hull K R in our matches against them. Hopefully the other full time teams will be up for it next year and more of the part time teams will be able to improve. I always felt it would take a miracle for anyone to get promotion and now we've had a good look I don't think that miracles come that big.

Whilst I agree, it wasn't just the team that got carried away it was the fans too. I read many posts saying 6 wins out of 7 were achievable - with no substance or reasoning behind it other than a couple of good cup wins (against the worst 2 teams in SL).

When you take the physicality out of Leigh the defence really suffers and teams have worked this out in this qualifiers. Whilst I sympathise with you after having such an excellent Championship campaign, I can't help but think the lack of professionalism at times off the pitch put cracks in Leigh's attempt to get promoted. I think the club and everyone involved needs to take a step back and realise this and look at how to improve for next year.

Don't bank on that, we've conceded 40 points in 5 games and have by far the best points difference in the group.

So loads of points but not win is that your latest brain fart?

Yes. Many supporters think that ex Super League and NRL players are of the required standard. The clue is in the "ex" if they were still good enough they would not be playing for a Championship side. They are getting on in years, never quite made it or have baggage. It takes a special type of coach to get the best out of such players when the chips are down. It's relatively easy when you winning easy matches. You beat Wakey and Salford in the cup when there was little pressure on your team as it was all on the Super League teams who did not want to be beaten. The trouble was that in the Qualifiers many of your supporters and I suspect some of the team felt that you could just continue the same way to get the same result. After we scored that first breakaway try the first half belonged to you. This probably just emphasised that feeling as it was the first match and you didn't have anything to compare it with. The second half came as a shock to everyone associated with the Leigh Club. Our early first try set panic in your team and it was only a matter of time. Super League teams do not normally give up and die when the going gets tough and can grind out a win even when not playing particularly well. I did think you would learn a lot from that first match but again when things again got tough in subsequent matches your players have still been found wanting when the pressure was on.

How can a shed load of points be more important than a win?

It can't. It's called clutching at straws.

And don't bank on us rolling over...This qualifiers isn't over yet!

It is for us.

Yes correct,that's why we have given up on the qualifiers this season and handed a bye to the Bulls on Saturday,with Widnes waiting in the wings to play the reserve team.

Hopefully realistically realists will follow us next season with the same positive attitudes..