Starbug here again , I assume your post is replying to me , nobody needs to ' demonise ' Gareth , he's done that all by himself already , many have quoted on here that " it's a clean slate , let's give him a chance " , well the way I see it is this , it isn't a clean slate at all , Gareth's ' slate ' is extremely dirty , he must control himself from day one , we can't accept anything like his previous behaviour at all , simple , stick to the rugby and I like everybody will support you , start with the stupid stuff , and it's down the road instantly

All my opinion of course , I'm sure others may differ

Starbug again here mooky , dropping your knee onto somebody's head isn't ' biff ' its thuggery and insane , yes Timmy liked to trade blows occasionally , and face to face it is part of the game

Timmy was always up front, nothing sneaky.

Gareth Hock is a serious business risk and yet has the potential to make the difference to get us into Super League - not on his own but as yet another high quality addition to an already high quality squad.
No doubt Paul, Derek and the BOM have carried out a full risk assessment and have hopefully been able to secure adequate cover within the terms of his contract.
As a fan, I would not have signed him - perhaps that is one of the reasons why I am not running a multi-million pound business. It is impossible to get every management decision right all of the time. However it is clear for all to see that the Club's decision making has been inspirational on all fronts over the past two years.
No-one hopes more than I that we have made the right call on Gareth - at the end of the day only he can prove all the doubters (me included) wrong.
There is no doubt that he will be adopted by Leigh's very loyal fans and have a great ride at the LSV, if he so chooses.

You assume wrong. It was an observation after reading numerous posts, five pages in fact. It is my personal opinion. I don't deny that he could well be a liability and his record is abysmal but if he wants to remain in the game now is the time to change. Here's hoping!

But Steve, he hasn't crapped on this club and you are a fan of this club. You're not a Salford or Widnes or Wigan fan are you. I will hold my hands up to what he has done playing and what he has been forensically caught of off the field but his behaviour on the field is in my opinion blown out of proportion. The lad hasn't been given the chance or decided not to react to all the rubbish that has been written about him. He was demonised when he came back from his cocaine ban and within six months wanted to go to Australia. How do any single one of us know what was going on at Wigan then. We should not make any assumptions or conclusions as to how this lad will behave or perform for Leigh Centurions until we see it with out own eyes. He has come with a clean slate as far as I am concerned and when he turns out in that cherry and white shirt with "O2 Leigh" on the front I will be shouting at the top of my voice for him. Can't wait to see him take his first ball in.

Don't want/need him!

Good summary TV Boy.

I have watched Hock play several times and he is a very talented player.I am confident he will prove to be a very good signing for us.

Exactly my opinion too. Signing his name on a peice of paper doesn't undo years of idiocy. He's got to wipe his own slate clean and he can only do that on the pitch, if he does everyone will support him.

The problem here is that all those who say they didn't want him will be on his back as soon as he does summat bad, whilst overlooking Acton, Walker & Barlows brainfarts because they are liked. We have got to get behind him from day one, not judge him b4 he steps into field willing him to cock up ( which there will be a few of )

Don't want World Class Players at Leigh Centurions ..BIZZARE STATEMENT

Very True Mr Publican , sad but very true , myself I welcome Gareth , I hope you goes on to prove himself at Leigh , and has a successful stay , I cant wait for his debut .

Hi Wayne , Starbug here , as many will know I have been critical of Mr Barlows actions both for other clubs and since signing for Leigh , Jamie so far has confined himself to the childish ' patting opposition players on their heads ' up to now , although you always feel he is on the edge of something stupid

I will support Gareth Hock providing he plays RL , something he is extremely good at , possibly the only thing he is good at , if he confines himself to that he is well capable of being the best 2 nd row forward playing in this country , how good is that , that he is playing for Leigh

However I will not support any player who goes out of his way or is unable to control himself to the point of deliberatley attempting to injure his fellow professionals

Only by giving him a ' zero tolerance ' stance do I believe he will perform to his undoubted abilities

All IMO , others may be willing to accept less , that is their prerogative

Very well put Steve, agree 100%