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Quote: gingdong "Greg the players offered are the ones that don't figure in Andy Hays plans if it were only high earners then Jamie Cording would be 1st on the list but hes staying. Im up for the charity bet what about
Like I say the winner gets to choose his own charity, but im fine if I lose paying it to which ever charity you like.

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[b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein[/size:112mouem] [/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein[/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln [/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem]:13050.gif



Quote: The Phantom Horseman "why do rumours about which players Fev are offering about always seem to originate from Fax fans?

Not saying they are untrue btw - I have no idea. I'm more concerned with how this information is getting out to the type of people who frequent message boards.'"


Agents contact clubs saying which players are available, that info gets leaked a lot of the time. All it takes is a "guess who fev(insert team) offered us?" conversation between a few people and the news is out. Moore seems to be the biggest one at Fev that they are struggling to shift.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Agents contact clubs saying which players are available, that info gets leaked a lot of the time. All it takes is a "guess who fev(insert team) offered us?" conversation between a few people and the news is out. Moore seems to be the biggest one at Fev that they are struggling to shift.'"


You haven't answered the question, which was why do these rumours always seem to emanate from Fax fans, and only from Fax fans?
Apologies to Leigh fans for this diversion on your board.

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Quote: Lowton_Sparrow "Not so sure, considering how close Leigh got to Leeds in the Challenge cup, now we've gone full time and added even more quality and depth to the squad; Bradford will be much better now they've got their money problems sorted & London have had a proper pre-season this year so have to be better than last year. The clubs that have been happy to squander money & do nothing for years on end sitting at the bottom of Super League are going to have to really up their game next season.'"


A one off game means nothing, you had no competition in your league this year, you played your best against Leeds and they were poor, you have two super league quality teams next year who will Imo be stronger over the course of the season, anyway I don't see any super league team losing their place to any of the 3 in the championship their just a lot stronger overall.

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[b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein[/size:112mouem] [/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein[/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln [/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem]:13050.gif



Quote: The Phantom Horseman "You haven't answered the question, which was why do these rumours always seem to emanate from Fax fans, and only from Fax fans?
Apologies to Leigh fans for this diversion on your board.'"


We have the biggest mouths. icon_biggrin.gif In all seriousness though the thing about the advance in RFL funding came from the Keighley chairman, the thing about players been offered could have come from any club in the league. I have seen from a Hunslet fan about their talks with Kain. I guess theres just a bigger ratio of Fax fans on these boards than most other clubs.

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Quote: Mike87 "A one off game means nothing, you had no competition in your league this year, you played your best against Leeds and they were poor, you have two super league quality teams next year who will Imo be stronger over the course of the season, anyway I don't see any super league team losing their place to any of the 3 in the championship their just a lot stronger overall.'"


Against Leeds we didn’t play our best we played just like we had most of the season no better no worse and Leeds played as good as we let them.

That said I agree a one off game is not the same as it will be in the middle 8, and I also agree it will be very tough for any team to get promoted, however that said if one of the championship sides is riding high (as we were last season) and a SL team is use to losing and low on moral etc then you never know, I honestly believe we would have beat both Bradford and London last season………..oh and we always beat Widnes anyway!

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If only the new system allowed for a promotion spot to be decided by a one off game....

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I cant see it to be honest. Talking to a lad who knows the Leeds players well he does not expect them to be standout at this level and thinks theres a good chance they will be bit part players and this is just seen as a small step in their development, Leeds will decide what to do with them after this season.

I must ask the question if Fev have money put to one side then why are they so eager to offload their top earners?

I wouldnt bet more than you can afford to lose on Fev finishing in the top 4.'"


wow you know so much other clubs and their players.

lol you know a guy who follows leeds and says the 4 players wont be much good, we best send them back then eh.

how good these Leeds players will be is just a matter of opinion at the moment until they pull a shirt on, but im sure Andy Hey and MC have more info on them than you and your mate.

The only Top earner we want to off load is Kain and that's because he's no good anymore not because we cant afford him. We have made no attept to offload Moore, why would we.

We'll easily finish at least 4th. we were poor last season but still too good for Halifax and Sheffield. I think we have improved our squad more than the pair of them. Sheffield will be better than Fax though.

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maybe we 'had no competition' -silly statement is that - because we were a lot better than the other teams in our division - oh yes thats what winning the league and grand final is all about?

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Quote: fevfan76 "wow you know so much other clubs and their players.

lol you know a guy who follows leeds and says the 4 players wont be much good, we best send them back then eh.

how good these Leeds players will be is just a matter of opinion at the moment until they pull a shirt on, but im sure Andy Hey and MC have more info on them than you and your mate.

The only Top earner we want to off load is Kain and that's because he's no good anymore not because we cant afford him. We have made no attept to offload Moore, why would we.

We'll easily finish at least 4th. we were poor last season but still too good for Halifax and Sheffield. I think we have improved our squad more than the pair of them. Sheffield will be better than Fax though.'"


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Im not sure where I said the lad who told me about the Leeds lads is a Leeds fan. He knows them a bit better than that. icon_wink.gif

Maybe you have improved your squad but personally, and i have seen a lot of people agreeing, I dont think you have really. Ive said the same about Sheffield, Im not expecting them to be terrible or anything Im just not expecting them to be top 5. Fax's biggest improvement came when they got rid of Harrison, most people do not realize how significant that decision was.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "icon_biggrin.gif

Im not sure where I said the lad who told me about the Leeds lads is a Leeds fan. He knows them a bit better than that.
Not improved really lol.

Ryan Millard - he was the best half back behind the Leigh duo we played against last season.
Nathan Chapell - was very good when we had him previous and will no doubt of improved after 2 years on Aus. Fev allowed Worthington to go knowing they had signed him
Ryan Verlinden - Huge aussie prop, unkown quantity but come with big reputation player of years in aus second grade
Shaun Irwin - Another aussie, half back or hooker played 13 games in nrl for gold coast, again like the fax signings unknown but sounds promising
Sykes - will add a bit of experience to our squad, Wakey fans wanted him to stay another season in SL
George Marchant - played youth with a couple of players in our first team, spent 2 years in aus
Cook Islander - international prop, not released his name yet, waiting for clearance from RL
the 4 from Leeds - may well be bit part players but add strength in depth
Nicolson and walmsey - signed last year, very good forwards but were injured in the Friendly's and out for season
Ormondroyd and Cooper - 2 Players on our books already who we sent to Aus for a year to play and gain exerience, back now and in the first team squad.

No defo not improved

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fevfan76
i never write on these boards only read them but i find your comment about the four from leeds strange as all 4 were playing super league last year all be it wiyh the worst 2 teams ie bradford and london carnt see them being bit part players.

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Quote: fevfan76 "Not improved really lol.

Ryan Millard - he was the best half back behind the Leigh duo we played against last season.
Nathan Chapell - was very good when we had him previous and will no doubt of improved after 2 years on Aus. Fev allowed Worthington to go knowing they had signed him
Ryan Verlinden - Huge aussie prop, unkown quantity but come with big reputation player of years in aus second grade
Shaun Irwin - Another aussie, half back or hooker played 13 games in nrl for gold coast, again like the fax signings unknown but sounds promising
Sykes - will add a bit of experience to our squad, Wakey fans wanted him to stay another season in SL
George Marchant - played youth with a couple of players in our first team, spent 2 years in aus
Cook Islander - international prop, not released his name yet, waiting for clearance from RL
the 4 from Leeds - may well be bit part players but add strength in depth
Nicolson and walmsey - signed last year, very good forwards but were injured in the Friendly's and out for season
Ormondroyd and Cooper - 2 Players on our books already who we sent to Aus for a year to play and gain exerience, back now and in the first team squad.

No defo not improved'"


Still failed to convince me. icon_biggrin.gif

Im sorry you missed out on the best Cook islander prop that was available, you can at least work out who the one you have signed is though. icon_wink.gif

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Interesting debate, i think 8 points my get you top 3 and 10 most certainly will. Which means who ever finishes top of the Chanmpionship play the following at home :-

Champ Pos 2
Champ pos 3
Champ pos 4

and i think either the 12th or 11th team in SL at home

Id fancy who ever finishes top of the champ to have really good chance of getting 8 points then the rest is history... all these SL fans who say they cant see this and that from the Championship need to have a look at the fixture list for the top 8 games!!

one final point the jokers who think we had no competition are just that IMO just jokers, ive had this suprising debate all ready with an ex director who had similar thoughts. Look at the number of games lost in 2013 season by Fax and Fev vs 2014. The significant difference is the 2 game sthey lost to us in 2014 vs what they won in 2013.

So to come out with a statement of we had no competition in 2014 is absolutely laughable.

Bring on the Bulls, Broncos, Fev, Fax, Eagles we respect everyone but fear no one!!

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