But it still wont pay the bills

Well indeed - cash is king.

But the old way doesnt work - we have to do something new, so what is it?
What does Leigh Centurions have right now that people (fans, sponsors, LISA, CC, new directors) are willing to pay for and will cost the club next to nothing to offer them?

For some people it may merely be about going to watch a sporting event near to where they live and they can now do that whilst watching Swinton. Come on Leigh RL make people want to watch you.

The Rugby we served up last year should have done that Dave but it didn't.

And neither did having Basil , or a shiny new stadium , or Tommy Martyn

So as you say Fred , the old ways dont work , thats if they ever did , the only way to sell something that somebody doesn't need , is to market it

Advertise and sample the product , thats how companies sell things

Heard some businessman speaking on radio yesterday. Now his product wasn't exactly RL but he too was struggling in the leisure industry. His answer was to give his paying customers more for their money. He ran an indoor skiing place and now gives two hours for the price of one. He still has the same running costs but now because people are getting better VFM more are coming through the door. I know that the club has difficulty in forecasting how many people will come the turnstiles but at the end of the day money (of value for it) speaks volumes. How can we offer a reasonably priced season ticket (I presume we would prefer up front money rather than sporadic game by game money which may lessen with team performance) which gives the holder something special. I know that the touch down club has been mooted which gives additional perks but this again is asking for increased amounts rather than just enticing the sale of the ticket. I don't have answers but I really think we need to market the product and I really do think that the answer if value for money.

We debated this on our forum last night. The RL championship is relatively weak and are not in a position to challenge the RFL even if they wanted to.

However, in footy, can you imagine the likes of Leeds, West Ham, et al taking the ring fencing of the EPL lying down?? There's is the 4th most watched league in the world - collectively they operate from a position of stength.
If the EPL decided to go down the licencing route, I cannot see that going unchallenged in law in the same way the Bosman and Kolpak rulings impacted on all sports because individuals challenged the rulings of their sports governing bodies.
If the EPL then lost such a challenge - it affects RL! I honestly hope that scenario is played out!

Sorry I forgot to add "speculate to accumulate".

I don't thionk the player would be impressed at playing 4 halves

Answering the title of the forum...... In a word, yes

Me too Tom.

We will be far better for the experience in a few weeks. Being a Leyther is all about the passion and the ride, if you want it smooth, support someone else - but it won't be a fraction of the fun.

Not saying I want it smooth, loved the relief of Milwards coaching and the ups these past 2 seasons. I'm just not a fan of being lied to. "7-10 days". As a season ticket holder for many years I feel as though I at least deserve to be kept in the know, I want to be kept updated with who's left, who's on the coaching shortlist, whether we're gonna have a playing team, what the structure of the club is going to be. Instead I feel as though I'm being taken for a complete mug who's just "another person". I feel the club/board/whoever aren't doing what they said theyw ould and that's keeping us in the know, instead we're all relying on "rumours", heard from someone. Now I know I've posted rumours recently, so I'm not saying that rumours are bad, but with no words coming from the club then this is what we've been reduced to. IMHO this is a good example of how not to treat your fans, fans for that matter who they're banking on getting another season ticket.

Tom , what's the rush , it's the close season , we don't play till January , plenty time to get things sorted