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Quote: j.c "The point of being well in advance with payments is the club wouldn't need a full time member of staff on aprox 15k to keep an eye on DDs as you suggested it would need.'"

Maybe so, but I don't see how the already limited resources would stretch to properly monitoring such a scheme as obviously we'd need someone to operate for further applications during the year, organising members events etc etc.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



we might actually find that most people are honest and wont cancel there DD or if they need to cancel then they might just inform the club of there actions.

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Quote: j.c "we might actually find that most people are honest and wont cancel there DD or if they need to cancel then they might just inform the club of there actions.'"

Certainly, but if this is to be a 'Stronghold' style scheme then you need a strong leadership for it or people simply won't be interested.

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "Certainly, but if this is to be a 'Stronghold' style scheme then you need a strong leadership for it or people simply won't be interested.'"


If the club is not going to be run as some kind of boys club as has always been the case in the past then i would suggest the club will have a very strong,honest and open leadership.

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if the club needs money to pay debts that fall due now then it is a great way of getting money in

yes 100 quid ST is 80 after tax - you cold stic it in a 'high' interest account (as far as im aware you pay vat at the end of the tax year) and you'll get a bit more in interest

at those levels you may also get more than 800 st holders

Starbug - surely the plan isnt to run at salary cap level next year - the aim, if things are as bad as has been said, is to get us to start the year then get a team together that we cann afford

also Starbug you have implied that the lease is the noose around the club's neck - it needs to be renegotiated, if not then maybe admin/liquid is the only option. i commend the work that the directors have done and the money that they have put in but if it was their personal business i'd be surprised if they would have agreed to move to premises before noing the costs - which is supposedly what happended here. yes i've seen many instance of businessmen 'losing' their business accumen when it comes to running a club.

2 massive errors from the directors of the club:

1. signing up to the stadium when they were in an extreme negotiating position
2. not investing AT money into making the club sustainable or having a plan b for when AT couldnt put money in

but i stand to be corrected if ive missunderstood what happened

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Not the time to be pointing out previous mistakes (with the benefit of hindsight) that we can't change and instead concentrate on what can be done to see us through the immediate term before we can look at the long term picture.

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Quote: MJC "
Starbug - surely the plan isnt to run at salary cap level next year - the aim, if things are as bad as has been said, is to get us to start the year then get a team together that we cann afford

happened'"


I haven't suggested we will run at the max salary cap next year , I have suggested a level that the club would have to achieve to run at max salary cap without ' donations '

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As I see it Wigan MBC (as it was then) made staying at HP impossible doing it by various methods like reducing the safety certificate to less than 1000, isolating it physically by putting a fence up like they have now I apologise if this isn't how it went but I remember something being said along these lines at a LISA meeting some years ago and old age is catching up with my memory icon_smile.gif.
As AT was by all understandings the one who was writing the cheques did the directors have a say in where the money went?

But yes Matt I agree let the past be laid to rest and look forward looking back with hindsight is great now but is it of value now?

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Quote: MJC "
also Starbug you have implied that the lease is the noose around the club's neck - it needs to be renegotiated, if not then maybe admin/liquid is the only option. i commend the work that the directors have done and the money that they have put in but if it was their personal business i'd be surprised if they would have agreed to move to premises before noing the costs - which is supposedly what happended here. yes i've seen many instance of businessmen 'losing' their business accumen when it comes to running a club.

2 massive errors from the directors of the club

It isn't the lease as such , it is the loss of income streams , so re negotiation isn't really an option IMO

As for agreeing to this lease , and it being a ' massive error ' , have you seen the fence that has now been erected between what was Hilton Park and the land Leigh East rented ?

Well the council own the Leigh East land , and they made it quite clear if we didn't agree to move to the new stadium , the council would erect a fence where that fence is , the sum total of that fence would have been the reduction of the capacity of Hilton Park to 1,000 due to Health and Safety

So tell me now what the board of directors should have done ?

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Quote: Starbug "It isn't the lease as such , it is the loss of income streams , so re negotiation isn't really an option IMO

As for agreeing to this lease , and it being a ' massive error ' , have you seen the fence that has now been erected between what was Hilton Park and the land Leigh East rented ?

Well the council own the Leigh East land , and they made it quite clear if we didn't agree to move to the new stadium , the council would erect a fence where that fence is , the sum total of that fence would have been the reduction of the capacity of Hilton Park to 1,000 due to Health and Safety

So tell me now what the board of directors should have done ?'"

I also seem to get the impression that planning permission is more forthcoming for the East site than what Miller(?) Homes faced with the HP site. But that's all another topic for another day IMHO.

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Quote: MJC "


2. not investing AT money into making the club sustainable or having a plan b for when AT couldnt put money in

but i stand to be corrected if ive missunderstood what happened'"


Arthur decided where his money was spent

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Quote: jpleigh "£25 a month for a ST, A Shirt each year and membership of the Ledgends bar. Starting asap'"



£30 per month for Matt.......(more material needed for his shirt than the rest of us) curtain.gif curtain.gif

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Quote: leytherjay "£30 per month for Matt.......(more material needed for his shirt than the rest of us) This from the man viewed only in widescreen on Sky eusa_naughty.gif eusa_silenced.gif

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Quote: Leyther_Matt "This from the man viewed only in widescreen on Sky

I dont like you eusa_snooty.gif eusa_snooty.gif eusa_snooty.gif

You still upset about us singing " MATTY BROKE HIS WINDOW" in Blackpool c020.gif c020.gif

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