By me ? , sod off Neil

No you suggested companies already with a connection to the club , which essentially means sponsors , ie those companies already putting their hands in their pockets ,

My point being just like asking the same fans to contribute more and more isn't what is needed , asking the same companies to contribute more and more also isn't the way forward

What you will tend to find is ' selective hearing ' when events are being publicised

I eagerly anticipate Lynda's KPI measurements from LISA, backed up with all the mandatory RAG reports, graph's and pie charts

You have to laugh don't you ??

Who needs television???

Could sit all night and read the of the local wannabe heros Dipster Pea and Teabag going at it hammer and tounges

Its not about your inflated egos boys its about LEIGH CENTURIONS.

I've just read the thread through from top to bottom. Neil is right. I'm shocked at your tone too.

This 'begging' comment aimed at TS who worked his ass off for LISA last year is unbelievably wrong.

Your general abrasiveness and dismissiveness of anything not entirely aligned with your own thinking is a force working in the wrong direction.

As the other half of a person driving to attract new funds do you and yours think it would be a little better to embrace the positivity and passion of folk who post on here rather than potentially snuffing it out by implying they are stupid or trolls or just slagging them off?

I, like TS, believe that LISA needs to make it clear what its mandate is and how important that is in order to take the fullest advantage of the current momentum. In the absence of that, I have still signed up but think you'd do better on Sunday if you had a very clear story to tell about what we do with the money.

Instead, every time someone says something you don't like, you shoot them down.

That is not leadership and, for the sake of this current push for funds, please pack it in (As you once, quite rightly, asked me to do) as NO GOOD CAN COME OF ANY OF THIS NEGATIVITY.

Help to have a club next season , how ' negative ' do you want ?

Please ignore Starbug's grumpiness please.

In answer to the orginal posters question, nothings changed except we the club need to make up the money that Arthur used to put in from somewhere.

SO LET STOP FALLING OUT AND GET TOGETHER AND HELP

Leigh is not a buisness like a building/engineering company rightly or wrongly sporting clubs dont get looked on the same and you know it, people are passionate about leigh and it comes from generations before us so dont start comparing the two, when people sponsor people for sporting clubs they do it mainly because they understand the hurt caused when a club is struggling and look at it more sympathetically because a sporting club is peoples recreation, when a buisness is sruggling it affects the family and employees only.
At the end of the day it waqs a daft comment thats why you removed it.

Lynda, I would happily help put some financial data together if needed.

On another topic - Leigh Centurions is neither a business nor a charity - its a sporting club that must embrace aspects of each. A business exists to make money for its shareholders - you would have to be crazy to think that Leigh Centurion fits this definition - BUT, the club needs to be run with a business mentality and that is the key. As Maurice says, use business acumen to minimise the shortfalls and fill that gap with pure goodwill support - which is where the charity comes in.

Starbug, you may have a hang-up about begging, and to some extent I can see where you are coming from. But, if you will pardon the pun, beggars cannot be choosers. If the objective at the end of the day is to save the club from oblivion, surely each of us has to put aside our own personal hang-ups and reservations - if you cannot support actively, at least please do not try to belittle or drag it down. I could come on here and poke holes in virtually everything the club and LISA have done in the last 3 or 4 years, and why they didn't do this, that or the other but generally I don't.

I am sure you have the best interests of the club at heart but you're actually doing some serious damage here, not only offending a number of individuals but generally casting an air of negativity on the whole board. It sounds like there may be a reason for that which should remain private...but please bear in mind that not every post people make on here has to be responded to or seen as a challenge.

I echo Waterfield's Finest in his comments about leadership. I am sure you do not see yourself in that capacity, but we all have to act as leaders in this environment and at this critical time. There are a number of people on this board who who have the professionalism, intellect, capacity, skills and experience to make a real difference - if we can all stop bickering and put our heads together and make it work. That, after all, is what being a business is all about - communication, compromise, openness are all key attributes that we have to display daily in our real jobs.

I didn't intend this to become a sermon, but I am becoming increasingly concerned by what is being posted here.

Well said ,my thoughts exactly , I support the club because its my pastime you don't go and support a business that gives you nothing back

I raised a thread on here a while back asking what was the policy and the future plans for LISA, and was ‘just’ giving to the club a good long term strategy, I kind of got shot down, so never joined.

However there’s a time and a place to raise these issues and I feel at this moment this isn’t it, its more important to just put personal views to one side for the greater good of all.

And that’s why I’ve got £60 in my pocket to give to that grumpy old fart when I see him on Sunday.

I agree with what you say , but the more a business acts like a charity , the more it will remain like a charity , my point being it needs to act more like a business , and not rely on charity

LCRL will never be able to run on its own without the help from other sources ie the fans and such

Would I be correct in thinking you wouldn't want to participate in a sponsored silence then Starbug... I think it could be quite a moneyspinner...