I can understand the Widnes fans paranoia about their club being hated by RL fans everywhere.

It must be a chemical inbalance which is surprisingly common in the Liverpool overspill areas of "Cheshire?"

Why should Widnes have a railway station for example ? A town going nowhere whilst Leigh being a boom town is crying out for one.

It is a paradox is it not ?

Well Derek that should keep them busy for 20 minutes.

To be honest, I am bored with it all now. Might see you Sunday

My word calm down will you its just banter ,don't mind in the least that Widnes have got into SL don't begrudge you in the slightest we are not ready your club is BUT never in the memory of man did the club have that much turn over

Seems to me as though certain Leigh fans claim to know far more about our financial accounts than our own accountants do. Are you all qualified accountants in your spare time? Every comment made about our accounts has been made out of supposition and speculation. Spin or not, none of it based on facts.

Well being a part time mathematics professor at Salford University (when I am able to spare the time) It is amazing what one is able to do with figures.

Even on LISA's committee we have a qualified accountant a famous actor and a reknown conservationist.

Research was recently undertaken on our fan base and over 70% admitted to an interest in all aspects of the current financial turmoil we currently find ourselves in.

Bet they can't say the same in Dewsbury for example.

Our humour is also better.

It has to be living in and supporting Leigh

Hate is a strong word and that's exactly what we've experienced from other clubs. We certainly bore the brunt of a lot of vitriolic abuse at Barrow the other week, fans of Sheffield have now waded in to the argument and now fans of SL clubs are trying to undermine our Under 18s efforts by claiming all sorts from the league is meaningless to us playing first teamers in the side...

And you wonder why we feel the way we do.

Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.

Nope, I think it’s you who has missed the point of what the Club of the year award actually means.

There can only be one award for the team of the year that is actually worth anything, and that will be decided on Sunday night.

Club of the year, awards the people and staff at a club; the ones who don’t actually take the field but have, none the less worked hard to move their club forward for the betterment of the club and the game itself.

Giving this award to Widnes does not mean that RL is or puts forward any proof of the

This has nothing to do with licences, so stop trying to pretend that it does. This award is not part of an RFL conspiracy and will have little meaning come decision time in March. After reading your last two posts it seems a bit of a cheek that Leigh fans are calling Widnes fans paranoid on this thread.

Widnes deserves this more than any other club in the Championship. We did, after all, get to a final again too.

Either way, you are talking complete and utter tripe.

Well if it is still run how it has been in the past each club are forced to buy a table anyway so are you saying the Fax table was empty? Tony Beevers turns up to the "opening of an envelope " he was at the Fax v Sheff game handing out an award there . He likes his rugby league and so does his Mrs who knows a great deal about the game too.

Well Pepe I see you too have taken my earlier posts out of context to argue your own point.

So everyone in Rugby League has the same set of rules do they? I don't see it.

I still think that the RFL have reduced the Championship to little more than a box ticking exercise over three seasons thanks to the introduction of the franchise system. This is sadly how fans view it both on here and around the grounds. HatedandAdored did make one good point in his tirade and no I'm not talking about the full stop at the end of his rant...

He said that he couldn't see why Championship clubs couldn't make this an attractive competition in its own right. The trouble is how do you market a "sub-standard product"? This is largely how the Championships are percieved, you only have to read the editorial comments in league weekly on the Championship games.

Starbug had the idea of everyone pulling together for the good of the game outside Super League, well sadly the whole franchise thing ripped a huge hole between fans. We no longer seem to discuss what was once important, creative halfbacks, finishing wingers, mean packs, all we seem to go on about is attendances, box ticking, balance sheets and who has the wealthiest chairman.

Nowadays this isn't the sport that I fell in love with and used to be decided on the field by who won finals and actually finished top of the league. How many people were lost to the sport when it chose that path?

I still love this game, I'm passionate about it, I want what is best for my club and I would love the competitions to thrive.

Come the end of next season they will need to do something about the competitions in any case, this is because the deck of cards can not be sustained with just ten home league games a season. That doesn't pay the bills and unless every club has a wealthy benefactor I can see a lot more doing a Whitehaven or a Rochdale.

It's all opinions isn't it.

Back on topic, do I think Widnes are club of the year? no.

I think there are more deserving clubs. Obviously as Widnes fans you'll disagree.

Hence the reason why I moved !!