IMO With 50 mill nad different CEO (Mr Samuels on the other hand asks the RFL what he needed to do to guarantee a SL place in 2009 , they told him exactly what he had to achieve , and they gave him the tools to achieve it

Not a problem with that

If they had stated that from the start

If we had had Mr Lewis make a statement back in 2006 " We intend to expand the SL competition into Wales , Mr Samuels has committed to finance this expansion and the Celtic Crusaders will take a 3 year Licence to play in SL in 2009 "

" We understand that some clubs will be unhappy with this but we feel that for the long term benefit of the sport we cannot miss this opportunity "

" The franchise system will cause upset to many fans and officials of clubs excluded , but we will make it our priority to help these clubs prosper in the competitions they are in and to genuinley make a success of these competitions "

I'd have lived with that , and personally I think so would many others'"

I spent a season watching Utd playing in the 2 nd division because we were not good enough to stay in the top division

I then spent around 13 years watching little relative success and it was only after I stopped going for financial reasons that the success came

Sorry but that is pure ' snobbery '

Sport is sport wether that is football , RL or anything you expect all the clubs to be playing to the same rules , City will be competing with Utd and all the others on a level playing field as far as the ' rules ' of those competitions

This is football of course which is not same when you see money involved. 30mill just for finishing last - its crazy money.
As I have said P&R is great for football for the interest involved, but because of the amount of money in the game now P&R is flawed.
Democracy is the correct way to go of course but that is flawed also especially when it comes down to the hard but necessary decisions against losing votes. This is for a different forum of course
Clubs like W1gan/Fulham/Hull will never win Premier League, and that goes for most of others. Money involved stifles progress. Champions League is damaging Prem, because now the top 4 are in every season it will take some miracle to change it. Because best players want to be in CL. City with all money they have still can't compete, but hopefully 5 years down the line we can. Sorry Bolton have no chance

You Utd fans don't know you are born. "relative success" is a trophy here and there - we dream of them

Also reference the snobbery, I would like to think that is untrue but maybe my posts didn't show me so well. But being from top flight big boys to the 3rd tier of football - now that is hard times. Also seeing our neighbours over the border win the treble when we are probable years away from even being in same league is a much harder pill to swallow than "relative success"

So RL fans and media are not interested in P and R

But league fans are interested in P&R. How many at that Wakey-Cas relegation game a few years ago? How many at the Leigh-Whitehaven NL GF? How many at the Hull KR - Cas games??

If it takes decades then so be it, but at least it would be built on solid foundations. The trouble is that [ieverything[/i in RL is a short-term solution, rather than building a Welsh League up over time to provide a solid breeding ground to develop players. After all, they've got virtually exclusive picking of an entire nation's playing pool.

Well the money that Rugby League was awarded recently from Sport England was £39 million.That is the reason there is no Great Britain anymore because they would have not got the grant otherwise.The money is being spent on monitoring the chosen players they have just anounced for the England squad. I do believe the monitoring is extreme where they are being wired up most of the time the intention is to beat the Aussies ,will any of this money filter down to the lower clubs ?Well what do you think.

The Sport England money is all allocated to grass roots development projects. It has nothing to do with England RL, SL or elite level sports (except in the context of player pathways).

Why would the superleage teams share the money they get for there comp with teams not in Superleague, dosn't happen in football.



The RFL have just got a better deal from sports england, more money for development of the sport.



To compare Football and RL is plain stupid, football is played by more people than any other sport, they have more teams and intrest in those teams to alow for the leagues in Wales,Scotland,england...etc



He has sold the lease to the ground, which is battered, has a very low rent to pay and no cost for the upkeep of the ground, not a bad bit of business.

Just because thay have 500k to spend dosn't mean thay should blow it on players, remember there is a salary cap and spending silly money would kill the club, look at the mess Leigh is in after a (very bad) year in Superleague. Until clubs like leagie get there house in order they should be no where near the Super League. '"

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But how do they compete with say Leigh on same rules as us ?