Inu did state he didn't think he was up to another superleague stint presuming he he was listening to his body , as for fergy we could have lost him mid way through the season which would have had more of disruption so I suppose we are fortunate to have Charnley and brisco to come in don't think many other teams would have able to do the same . Little rumour going about Jared w Hargreaves would he be the difference to the pack were all saying is needed ?

a directors loan causes difficulty if he/she wants it back and forces club into liquidation to claim a fraction back which will never happen.... id be more worried if we had a million pound of government debt that we had to start paying back but we dont... more clubs next year will spend less on players because they will have to cut their cloth accordingly meanwhile come May we will be cherry picking the best of the best from the rest because we will have a growing fan base, brand with increased commercial revenue and no debt...

As for props Tom Amone will be one of the best in the league, Rob Mulhern will add good punch and there is sizeable back up in davis and big ben behind them... that said i totally agree a couple of stand out signings in that department will add real quality to us and help us achieve play offs.. what nobody can account for is injuries which like any season will be crucial..

If we don't add another couple of big forwards and a class outside back to our small squad, you can forget any top half table finish as injuries and suspensions will no doubt hit in. Re Charnley and Briscoe - lots of welcome experience but both way past their best. Will Briscoe's heart be in it or is he just glad to get another seasons pay cheque. I can see him having another long layoff with injury. Best 17 will give anyone a game but the squad is too weak. Re Big Ben I think he proved himself last season and he was a standout player for Fiji in World Cup. I'm sure Lam and Co have this covered and further signings will come in.

11th. !!!

....and your tip for 12th, Snowy? Whoever it is, it's to be hoped that they're not insulated by IMG's nonsense.

I know you were asking Snowy (and I’m confident he knows the game better than me), but i thought I would throw in my 2 cents. I just don’t see Wakey doing what they have so often done before, that being not come 12th. I actually have huge respect for their resilience as a club, but this may be a season too far for them.
(Happy New Year B&B)

HNY 2U2 VL. A month and two days to go. Can't wait!

Bolton won three-baht, Utd beat City, Wiggin dropped two (MORE) points, Celtic won and both sets of Scousers lost. What's more, Bongser is half seas over with tomorrow fallow. A decent day on the whole but RL needs to return if life is to have real meaning

A spine of Hardaker, Lam, Ipape, Asiata coached by Lammy doesn't finish anywhere near the bottom... cant believe people predict 11th... come on Charlie and Snowy have the faith

I do have faith Ste, but someone has to finish bottom , I’m sure Wakey fans don’t think they will finish bottom ,or HKR fans but someone has to .
Yeah as a spine the players you name are quality , add to them a couple of others , but some of our fringe players are very inexperienced ,some weren’t good enough last season for the championship ,anything is possible ,Ste you are a betting man as indeed I am ,I think Constitution Hill will win the Champion Hurdle , but it’s possible he might not ,Wakey might surprise a few folk as might HKR , I just think it’s a difficult season ahead .

it defo wont be easy mate but look at the other squads and check their numbers 14 upwards.... all elements of risk i actually think we have more experience than some after numbers 13.... outside of st helens who has a better spine than us? exciting times and there wont be many other clubs bar us with cash to spend...

Although I agree about Clubs not having cash to spend or vacant overseas places , we only have one overseas spot vacant ,then it’s a case of where the other players are going to be signed from , hopefully we will have a bit of luck with injuries ,I think a good start is vital to our season .

injuries are key for everybody mate, theres always fall outs, unrest etc there be plenty available throughout 2023

I will be honest, i think it will be the most open SL ever. Not many points will separate the bottom 6, but i see Wakey not doing the great escape this time round. Pity, as it is only now they are finally upgrading Belle View.

We just need to stay up and consolidate. 8 wins should do this and our Home form needs to be spot on. There will be some right silly scorelines !!

A lot of time ,effort ,and money has gone into the rebrand and plans to help Leigh stay up this time , I truly hope it doesn’t fall on Stoney ground .
I have faith , and don’t think we will go down , but I do think we will struggle,,yeah we have some quality players , but we have some just number makers , let’s hope other become available as the season progresses.