Think the big loss excluding all the good players we let go for no good reason was Paul Cooke he revitalised our attack to get us promoted before and without him all attacking flare seems to have disappeared, hope this changes today but at the moment KC and NJ percentage tactics don't seem to be working. Do we need a new specialist attacking coach?

Dereks hero of the day seems to be 'the special one at MU'
To knock a kick off time and all of the clubs fans back to 5.30 on a Sunday evening. Wonder if the same attitude off jose would be acceptable to Derek as NJ and KC with regards to team selection. Results. And interviews. Or lack of interviews after a loss

Intersetingly, most of our senior coaching positions seem to have gone to forwards - positions that are not always renowned for their attacking expertise.

Who ever coached PNG in the World Cup

I asked Jukesy today what is going on...

did he have any answers ?

I feel sorry for jukes cause it’s not him behind all this crap rugby it’s Cunningham but now because of it they both have to go now they coached the rugby out the side already same as his saints days things need to happen sooner rather than later I heard two games last week so he might get another game against fev that won’t be easy either be good for riddy to try and get his old coach sacked who he did not get on with

I've got to say I'm really surprised by this turn of events. (I haven't been to any games this season so I'm sure some will say that I'm not entitled to an opinion but you'd be wrong, I am and here it is.)

Everyone is saying that we should sack both coaches and there's obviously something seriously wrong in the camp so I do agree (Jukesy has as much charisma as a curtain pole and Cunningham is slightly less inspiring than a telephone directory) but don't the players shoulder any responsibility for this shambles? Do you think the players are better than the ones they replaced? If coached properly do you think this team is capable of getting us promoted or are they just a bunch of journeymen waiting out their time?

I just don't know the answer to any of those questions, what do you all think?

Course not. He didn't even speak. He just brushed past me dashing for the tunnel.

I didn't expect anything else really but come on. That display yesterday was so rudderless.

We have a professional club throughout but you really can't tell this season especially.

Thats just it, we are a professional club thats ran by amatures. Im still in shock at our decline. Derek having a meltdown on twitter. Expect to see him on a ppv boxing card from a Labour club near you soon. Look out eddie hearn

Although coming from a team know for playing with flare KC doesn't believe you need it we had a good team last year very capable and experienced in negotiating a top 4 or better finish in the championship. So what did we do let all those players go and bring in players with no experience of the championship. And the answer to the problem seems to be take out the remaining flare players Reynolds and Hall. Radical change of leadership needed. Feath will run riot next week, at least it will be good to see a good stand off again.

If you knew anything about the squad you would know it is far from a journeyman squad. Just about each and every one of them have a point to prove in one way or another. There is without doubt a quality team there, who can pull this out of them I have no idea.

However, it seems clear the current coaching set up can't, and changes of some kind have to be made. To allow an average, then 12 man team cut holes in us like that is unacceptable beyond words - needs a different mentality set

Based on what I've seem, these players are certainly not as good as some of the guys we let go. We seem utterly leaderless; we have no pace; very few individual skills; can't/won't kick the ball when we should; and seem to have a worrying lack of desire. As a consequence of the first four games, confidence is very brittle - as can be witnessed by what happened yesterday. We were totally in command, at 20-6 against twelve apparently dispirited men, when we made a simple error, and conceded a try. From then on, it was obvious what was going to happen, as our confidence evaporated alarmingly, and theirs rapidly increased.

I believe the players must be being coached to play 'boring' rugby - i.e. low risk. Yet we are still making schoolboy errors. Our 'style' is depressingly reminiscent of much of last season, despite a virtually total clearout of players. On paper, these players have an impressive pedigree. Unlike last season's team, they have youth on their side, yet they possess a lot of top level experience. (well over 2,000 SL/NRL appearances) They just can't be as bad as they seem to be!

I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that it must be the coaching - plus the lack of the key type of half back who can organise the team and lead them around the pitch. In my opinion, we have recently driven a player with those credentials out of the club, along with other talented individuals, who appeared to possess the qualities, in abundance, that the current squad appear to lack.

After the Barrow defeat, we were advised to watch the 'wide view', (whatever that is?) and we would see things differently. I wonder what the 'wide view' looked like yesterday?

Last season's flop was a collective effort, of course. But why the same fella/s are still steering the ship is beyond comprehension IMHO.

You gotta hand it to DB though for putting loads of his own dosh into RL because if I had his kind of money I wouldn't spend a penny on a sport that seems to be declining slowly overall.

And it pains me to even suggest that last part.

Seems your chairman has been offering Leigh 'fans out' on Twitter. What the hell is he thinking?