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| Well thats one way of looking at it...
My opinion is slightly different based on the published information. On the subject of 'refusing to allow him to have the test' they possibly thought there wasn't much point as his actions had already contravened the regulations and were subject to the same sanctions as a failed drug test. Also the time the tester turned up would be at a time that Sam himself would have provided to UKAD as when and where he would be. The tester had ID and showed it, this point must have been accepted by the police who DID NOT arrest the man for burglary
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| I don't disagree with any of the above, I'm just saying that in the heat of the moment he decided to play silly beggars and it has cost him dearly.
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| Quote: DemonUK "Well thats one way of looking at it...
My opinion is slightly different based on the published information. On the subject of 'refusing to allow him to have the test' they possibly thought there wasn't much point as his actions had already contravened the regulations and were subject to the same sanctions as a failed drug test. Also the time the tester turned up would be at a time that Sam himself would have provided to UKAD as when and where he would be. The tester had ID and showed it, this point must have been accepted by the police who DID NOT arrest the man for burglary'"
Derek, I can't really disagree with either you or Michelle. It's a promising career wasted, however you look at it.
As a point of interest, I don't think players have to notify UKAD of where they will be in their 'leisure time' and I think that is mentioned somewhere in the lengthy judgement. It's impossible to inform anyone of where you will be all the time, outside 'normal working hours'
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| OK Alan. I always thought that they had to provide at least an hour where they could be found. If Sam gave that as his hour then I assume they can call whatever time is given. As you say he has thrown away his career.
I find the whole thing inexplicable and there are comments in the documents that give the impression his solicitor didn't help his cause much.
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| He couldn't help him,it was a tribunal,not a court of law. Burgler/Intruder fiction..Neighbours CCTV fact.The rest of it is irrelevant.Question needs to be asked why it took so long.
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| So why was he there. Oh yes at the appeal he asked for new information to be considered. ...and what are you blathering on about CCTV. Not seen that in official documents. When this thread has been based around stated facts and people's opinion on said facts it looks like you have decided to add a 'rumour'.
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: DemonUK "So why was he there. Oh yes at the appeal he asked for new information to be considered. ...and what are you blathering on about CCTV. Not seen that in official documents. When this thread has been based around stated facts and people's opinion on said facts it looks like you have decided to add a 'rumour'.'"
The documents mention CCTV footage from his next door neighbour which apparently didn't paint a very good picture for Barlow.
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| Quote: DemonUK "So why was he there. Oh yes at the appeal he asked for new information to be considered. ...and what are you blathering on about CCTV. Not seen that in official documents. When this thread has been based around stated facts and people's opinion on said facts it looks like you have decided to add a 'rumour'.'"
Might help you to do some reading Derek..And drop your challenge also.. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| What challenge is that then? I missed it. Just to help you ...sadly I agree with UKAD.
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| Folk are more obsessed with Sam Barlow than they are about Ryan Brierley they are 2 ex Leigh player's who have gone now,the same as Paul Rowley,I'm interested in tomorrow and getting to SL, as go UKAD?I'm more interested in UKIP ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) and I hate Politics.Bring on the Giants. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| When did Barlow become an EX player Charlie?
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| Quote: atomic "When did Barlow become an EX player Charlie?'"
In my view , yesterday , with a 4 year ban I can't see him playing for Leigh again , can you?
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| His 4 year ban started from last year.Not yesterday.I would say he's been an ex player for quite a while.
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42910_1337432023.jpg [i:5a56um9q]Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting.[/i:5a56um9q]
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| Quote: DemonUK "So why was he there. Oh yes at the appeal he asked for new information to be considered. ...and what are you blathering on about CCTV. Not seen that in official documents. When this thread has been based around stated facts and people's opinion on said facts it looks like you have decided to add a 'rumour'.'"
The neighbours CCTV forms a huge part of the UKAD's case and is mentioned many times in the documents.
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| After reading the adjudication I can think of only one word: pigheadedness.
One or two things were, however, not dealt with to the satisfaction of my curiosity
i) The preamble to the release mentioned the need to establish whether UKAD had given sufficient warning of the test, though I can't recall mention of the establishment of that being mentioned thereafter (or indeed any definition of what "sufficient warning" amounts to)
ii) No thought was, at least reported, to have been given to the question of whether Barlow was already aware that the test had been aborted before he gave his Doolittlesque profession to be willing, waiting and wanting to be tested. If UKAD had already decided that "tampering" had occurred and that that was sufficient to warrant the mandatory ban (and to be the sole accusation at the trial) why was this even reported?
iii) I wasn't impressed by the flippancy with which the black-capped QC used the phrase "shining like a ship's beacon" in an official adjudication. Yes, I know I stand correctly accused of all too often being flippant, but it did jar.
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