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Quote: FredParky "Now which were out first the Leigh fixtures or the Sky TV one's?'"


Not sure why this matters but I guess Leigh's? But it’s not exactly a shock that there's a Sky game on Friday nights.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Football i can understand but it seems a bit odd that people think Leighs attendances will be hit by two other rugby clubs playing on tv or am i miss understanding what people are on about

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Quote: j.c "Football i can understand but it seems a bit odd that people think Leighs attendances will be hit by two other rugby clubs playing on tv or am i miss understanding what people are on about'"

No - but if you didn't have a season ticket or Touchdown membership you might not be tempted by Leigh v York with Wire v Saints on tv - thus once again raising the issue of getting the "floating" fans through the gate

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Surely we wont know that until the club have tried fridays a few times?

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Quote: j.c "Football i can understand but it seems a bit odd that people think Leighs attendances will be hit by two other rugby clubs playing on tv or am i miss understanding what people are on about'"


Those who are current supporters will do everything they can to watch whenever finances, shift patterns, other commitments allow, I just cant see your average Joe (Mo’s already bringing every Bob icon_wink.gif ) parting with about £15 to watch Leigh v York (no disrespect to them as it could probably be anyone), when he can watch Wire v Saints in the <Insert any pub you want> and have a few pints and possibly spend less.

For the record I hope I’m wrong and LSV is packed to the rafters, as you say only time will tell.

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Quote: glow "Not sure why this matters but I guess Leigh's? But it’s not exactly a shock that there's a Sky game on Friday nights.'"



I think the ? was a clue in my post GLOW.

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Quote: glow "Those who are current supporters will do everything they can to watch whenever finances, shift patterns, other commitments allow, I just cant see your average Joe (Mo’s already bringing every Bob
Soz glow i still don't get it,if your average joe is a leigh fan and can now get to a game on friday evening but wouldn't/couldn't go on sunday it shouldn't matter whats on tv

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Quote: jonny the leyther "If that's true, and i'm not agreeing or disagreeing, we just have to be a bit more savvy about when we play our Friday night games. It's not TV that's dictating when we play on a Friday. We have to avoid all Wigan/Wire/Saints derbies and I think a Leigh game would win out over anything else.'"


We need to work hard at it and even if Friday is deemed a success keep working hard at it to build on it.
Using your good self as a example (in that you don't like football), what we are in a way asking is how could I get you to come to Gigg Lane on a Friday evening to watch Bury play Wycombe Wanderers when Manchester United v Manchester City are live on TV in the pub.
Maybe as a first time fan of football , what would tempt you away from your home or a bar watching high class football entertainment to watch a match that will likely be less skilful - and thats the very hard sell Leigh have.
I won't open the Friday debate up but will say IMO its a non young family KO time, so in effect we have to target certain groups and maybe instead of familes and suchlike (as per sunday Ko's) concentrate on 2 mates for £25.00 , Pint and a ticket , two 11 to 16 year olds in for a Fiver etc- a different audience altogether from 3PM Sunday, go horses for courses.

The danger of us not having a steady kick off day was highlighted for me when my lad who was just getting used to being a new Leigh fan and just getting into it asked why we have stopped going to the rugby, I explained what was happening (TV games and now fixture day changes etc) and he's asked can we go and watch another team if we can't watch Leigh, Leighs loss could possibly be another clubs long term gain ?.
Just shows how hard it is to get it right and the task ahead of the club.

Still say 6.15pm Saturday is the main one that will please more than it upsets

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Quote: j.c "Soz glow i still don't get it,if your average joe is a leigh fan and can now get to a game on friday evening but wouldn't/couldn't go on sunday it shouldn't matter whats on tv'"


See Jenky's reply. Your average joe isn't a Leigh Centurions fan, he doesn't currently support anyone, but likes watching RL games on TV. How do we get him away from the TV and down to LSV?

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Quote: glow "See Jenky's reply. Your average joe isn't a Leigh Centurions fan, he doesn't currently support anyone, but likes watching RL games on TV. How do we get him away from the TV and down to LSV?'"


You win SL

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Quote: Starbug "You win SL'"


icon_lol.gif That's that sorted icon_thumb.gif



How do we increase capacity at LSV? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: glow "icon_lol.gif That's that sorted
Why would we need to do that?

If we won SL we would still only get 5-6,000 home support

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Quote: maurice "We've had 'community' for years and they cannot sell it. They turn up and give freebies out to kids at school and we wonder why it fails, the only ones who go, go anyway.

Repeat 10 times SELL not TELL............ this is not a quick fix, it needs consistency and continuity.'"


You can give out all the free kids tickets you want, tge parents will NOT then pay money to bring their kids, end of argument

The community dept are just another way of communication, maybe somebody should ask them what they need to get people into the stadium?

No disrespect, but I probably know more about conservatory roofs than you, you no doubt know more about logistics than me, and I have no doubt that the community trust staff know more about building interest in a club with kids than either of us

Normal marketing doesnt always work in sport, it needs a totally different approach, it is a special kind of brand loyalty

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Quote: Starbug "You can give out all the free kids tickets you want, tge parents will NOT then pay money to bring their kids, end of argument

The community dept are just another way of communication, maybe somebody should ask them what they need to get people into the stadium?

No disrespect, but I probably know more about conservatory roofs than you, you no doubt know more about logistics than me, and I have no doubt that the community trust staff know more about building interest in a club with kids than either of us

Normal marketing doesnt always work in sport, it needs a totally different approach, it is a special kind of brand loyalty'"


No disrespect but getting people to buy into sports entertainment will not be achieved by a community department in schools dishing free tickets out to kids who if they even take them out of their bags at home have parents who are not motivated to buy into the offer.
We need a clear vision of where we want to be and how we intend to get there. This needs to be ambitious and ignite the interest of the dormant fanbase, to motivate them to become part of the vision.
Once we have a clear and communicated vision (mission statement) we embark on getting buy in via the low hanging fruit initially, graduating through different trenches until we create such a wave that people are asking to come onboard, or peer pressure drives the snowball.
At present we play in a league that goes nowhere and we have communicated no ambition to change that. If there is any marketeer able to have a significant impact on gates operating within those confines then that person is a genius.
Look at Fev this year, they have made a statement of intent regarding their SL ambitions, they have sold this to their fan base and achieved 'record' season ticket take up and a fantastic gate v ourselves for a Thurs night tv game in a small ex pit village.
We stand still and die or we throw the dart and enjoy the ride.

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