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Quote: reffy "Acton would have got "On field penalty" sufficient.

The VR shouldn't advise on anything unless he has been asked to do so by the ref.'"



So because it wasn't seen at the time, it then became a Grade C. Crazy if you ask me.

Thanks anyway.

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Unbelievable that people are blaming Acton's idiocricy on the officials or some misguided belief of some agenda against Leigh. I am also not interested on what liabilities reside in other teams, I do however care about placing numb skulls in my own team. We don't need this risk, not now.

Can you imagine Weston or Moi Moi doing what Acton did. Even Hopkins or young Spenner? No, they are more far professional running their blood to water for the team , their fans, their club and it's Super League aspirations. They are intelligent enough to know what is required. A controlled , disciplined game.

Flanagon was just recovering from an accidental head injury and Acton charged him from behind full pelt to the ground and for no apparent reason. He could have sustained further injury.

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Quote: reffy "I think Acton will get NFA, if the nearest TJ had noticed it we wouldn't be having this conversation.'"


Are you sure there ? If the TJ had seen Acton, he would have observed Acton running at full speed off the ball, away from the action taking out an opposition player. His flag would be up and play would be stopped. After hearing the TJs version the ref would also note that Flanagon was down injured from it, off the ball. It is then interpretation. I think a number of referees would deem punishment warrents more than a penalty. A penalty to Salford that could still have cost us the game I hasten to add.

Send him out. He is only two games in to a return from a 7 match ban. Enough is enough.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "Unbelievable that people are blaming Acton's idiocricy on the officials or some misguided belief of some agenda against Leigh. I am also not interested on what liabilities reside in other teams, I do however care about placing numb skulls in my own team. We don't need this risk, not now.

Can you imagine Weston or Moi Moi doing what Acton did. Even Hopkins or young Spenner? No, they are more far professional running their blood to water for the team , their fans, their club and it's Super League aspirations. They are intelligent enough to know what is required. A controlled , disciplined game.

Flanagon was just recovering from an accidental head injury and Acton charged him from behind full pelt to the ground and for no apparent reason. He could have sustained further injury.'"



I don't think anyone is blaming the officials on Acton's idiotic behavior. I for one have said on a couple of post that i don't condone what he has done. The point you are missing Mr Rigby is the inconsistency of the disciplinary panel. When you used the term full pelt from behind, It was exactly the same as J Soward on Worthy with a different disciplinary outcome,but as reffy pointed out, it would have been penalty sufficient if the TJ had seen it. It beggars belief.

And btw -"If you care so much about placing numb skulls in your own team" You need to have a word with juksey on that one.

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Quote: Harold Rigby Jnr "Are you sure there ? '"


No, you can never be sure on these things just an opinion; it is all supposition because the officials missed it.

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Refereeing
Bias - no
Inconsistency - Yes (but with the speed and multiple aspects on the go, 99% is down to honest error in judgement, bad viewing angle etc. All to be expected in any game. The 1% is just bad reffing)

Disciplinary
Bias - no
Inconsistency - Yes (and no reason why it should be so in my opinion)

Jamie Acton
Sorry but he is his own worst enemy and I would not play him again in these playoffs. He is a scary man with ball in hand and would be on my team sheet every time if that was all I was thinking about. Unfortunately he will at best give away 2-3 silly penalties a game, at worst we will be down to 12 men for 10 mins or the rest of the game when our team is in one of the most important times in its recent existence. I believe he is still worth keeping as a work in progress but as for these 8's, please keep him in the stands Neil.

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Quote: reffy "No, you can never be sure on these things just an opinion; it is all supposition because the officials missed it.'"


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Quote: Alan "In my opinion, Acton has what it takes to go all the way in RL. But he MUST stop the silly little niggles that are costing him/us big time. Does he deserve punishing for last Saturday? Yes, if he's guilty of what the disciplinary review people saw. (I've not watched it yet)

Was Soward guilty the week before? Well, that was also an attack to the back of someone who wasn't in possession, but he wasn't even referred for that. For my money, that's inconsistency - nothing to do with bias.'"


Totally agree, the whole disciplinary process needs overhauling as it can be so inconsistent that it borders on incompetence.

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Quote: JENKY "Totally agree, the whole disciplinary process needs overhauling as it can be so inconsistent that it borders on incompetence.'"


Speaking of incompetence.

Quote: JENKY "DISCIPLINARY

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Quote: atomic "Speaking of incompetence.

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Should that read 'Incontinence'? eusa_hand.gif

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"DISCIPLINARY: Due to illness of the independent judge sitting on the disciplinary panel, tonight's hearings will now be heard on Wednesday."

What constitutes an independent judge? More to the point, who are the non-independent judges? Kouka££ and Flanagan? Barring that last bit, this is a genuine request for info.

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Think its mainly former players

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Thanks for the link, Glow. If one of the recurring names is NEIL Turley then, without intending to cast any doubt at all over his integrity, I realise that (certainly in the case of Leigh players being hauled before the beak) he couldn't possiblybe viewed as independent. I am still very much in the dark as to the criteria that define the independent judge though. Perhaps Reffy can help?

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A panel member (ex player) is independent if he hasn't or hadn't any connection with the club the 'offender' plays for. I doubt Turley would be deliberating on Acton's case, not because he wouldn't do an honest job but to remove any calls of favouritism from opposition fans.

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