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| Quote: urbancarrot "As a Fax fan who couldn't make the game I listened on the radio to the guys commentating and what surprised me was they gave two figures..2500 and 3000 (there seemed confusion which was more accurate)for supporters to come through the gate just to break even. That itself must be a worry as clubs like Fax and Leigh always hover around the 2.5k mark when decent teams come to our grounds but then you get the likes of Dewsbury and Sheffield with virtually nil away support and do not have that "extra" factor to bring out those hit and miss supporters that brings down the attendances drastically'"
Someones (Starbug?) mentioned the fact on here that at Hilton Park we needed to average 2500 to break even, at the LSV it's 4000. Think i've got that right, if not someone will correct me.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "Someones (Starbug?) mentioned the fact on here that at Hilton Park we needed to average 2500 to break even, at the LSV it's 4000. Think i've got that right, if not someone will correct me.'"
At Hilton Park it was around 2800
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| Thats a rather large break even point and one you are never going to hit anywhere other than SL.
If those figures are true then moving to the LSV may well be the biggest mistake your club has ever made. The only Club to play in this division recently and hit that kind of average was Cas, and fair play to them they have 4.5k -5k die hard fans. Leigh, I think in the early 2000's your crowds may have come close to that figure. But the interest is not there at this level anymore since the RFL want it run as a beefed up reserve league for SL players.
If you dont get a big backer like Widnes did i would advise trying to take a hand as a supporters trust.
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| Quote: TonyGee "[sizeThats a rather large break even point and one you are never going to hit anywhere other than SL.[/size
If those figures are true then moving to the LSV may well be the biggest mistake your club has ever made. The only Club to play in this division recently and hit that kind of average was Cas, and fair play to them they have 4.5k -5k die hard fans. Leigh, I think in the early 2000's your crowds may have come close to that figure. But the interest is not there at this level anymore since the RFL want it run as a beefed up reserve league for SL players.
If you dont get a big backer like Widnes did i would advise trying to take a hand as a supporters trust.'"
Totally unrealistic even doing well in SL these days with none or little travelling species from London, Wales and France we would be lucky to average 4k over a full season.
Once again the club has been managed poorly and sold down the river yet the people responsible retain hero status.
All will be revealed watch this space.
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22/03/2013
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| Quote: leythkeith "Totally unrealistic even doing well in SL these days with none or little travelling species from London, Wales and France we would be lucky to average 4k over a full season.
Once again the club has been managed poorly and sold down the river yet the people responsible retain hero status.
All will be revealed watch this space.'"
The club hasn't been run badly at all.
As you well know one mans business's have gone under and thats had a knock on effect on the club.
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| All expenditure should be based on realistic attendances only, not pie in the sky presumptions.
If 4000 is break even with a full compliment of staff, then what is the breakeven required just to pay LSV.
If it's 2500 then the whole situation is not sustainable.
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| Quote: j.c "The club hasn't been run badly at all.
As you well know one mans business's have gone under and thats had a knock on effect on the club.
So who signed us up to the bad deal at the LSV???
Who has given staff and players contracts that we will be unlikely to meet before the end of the season.
Buisnesses dont just go and wealthy buisnessmen nine times out of ten dont suffer when they do infact on the contray its nomally in there personal favour to pull plugs take the money and run especially when nearing retirement age.
It will be intresting how public opinion will differ once the true facts are put on the table and the smoke clears.
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22/03/2013
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| Does anyone actually know how much we pay per game to use the lsv?.
No guesses please i really cant be bothered with them.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: TonyGee "Thats a rather large break even point and one you are never going to hit anywhere other than SL.
If those figures are true then moving to the LSV may well be the biggest mistake your club has ever made. The only Club to play in this division recently and hit that kind of average was Cas, and fair play to them they have 4.5k -5k die hard fans. Leigh, I think in the early 2000's your crowds may have come close to that figure. But the interest is not there at this level anymore since the RFL want it run as a beefed up reserve league for SL players.
If you dont get a big backer like Widnes did i would advise trying to take a hand as a supporters trust.'"
In SL the break even is 10,000
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| Quote: Starbug "In SL the break even is 10,000'"
At the LSV? Sweet baby Jesus! Or dos that include spending cap?
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| Quote: Starbug "In SL the break even is 10,000'"
Bull.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: leythkeith "
The deal for the LSV was a ' take it or leave it deal ' , it was made quite clear to the board at the time , that if we did not sign up to go into the LSV stadium , the council would make Hilton Park unusable , the next time you drive along the by pass look at the fence that has been erected on the old leigh east site , imagine that fence with Hilton Park next to it
It would have reduced the capacity of Hilton park to 1,000
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| Quote: leythkeith "Bull.'"
A well argued and once again very positive and factually backed up statement.
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| Quote: leythkeith "
Iv'e got no idea who signed the deal with the lsv.
At a guess i would say it was AT who gave the go ahead to sign one of the best coaches in the game and some of the best players in this league on to good contracts,contracts that were/are being honored until his businesses went under.
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| Quote: Starbug "
Right so what your saying is committing corperate suicide as the only option????
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