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Quote: halifaxjohn "An honest question.
Do you think the players were/are distracted with the recent upheavals and are the players behind Jukes?'"

John my opinion and answer to your questions are No the players weren't distracted by what had happened previously, and Yes I think all the players as well as most of the Fans are behind Jukesy 100%.

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Quote: Lowton_Sparrow "Every coach of every team in every sport is under pressure but I don't think Jukes will be under undue pressure just yet. You can't take away from Batley & how well they played, yes we should have done better but that's down to the players not the coach. Half backs did go missing, without victimising or blaming anyone for anything I think in some of the Super 8s games, the friendly against Warrington & the Batley game when the going gets tough Ryan can sometimes go missing; we have 3 excellent half backs competing for 2 positions, don't play them out of position let them compete for the 2 available. For me at the moment it's Ridy & Rangi that get the spots.'"


I don't think Ryan EVER goes missing. In some games he tries a little too hard and becomes less effective.Sunday was one such game.

What would I do on Sunday, I really don't know as Ryan, Riddy and Chase for me did not stand out as much as they can and probably should

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Quote: leyther forever "I don't think Ryan EVER goes missing. In some games he tries a little too hard and becomes less effective.Sunday was one such game.

What would I do on Sunday, I really don't know as Ryan, Riddy and Chase for me did not stand out as much as they can and probably should'"

LF it's probably obvious I like Ryan and have a lot of time for him, last season
n his role in the team seemed to involve linking the forwards with the backs, but I think Rangi will, do that this season, allowing Ryan to feed off Rangis passes and breaks,I still think Ryan is worth maybe 30 tries or more this season and therefore shouldn't be dropped,where does Riddy fit in?For me at Centre.

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Quote: charlie caroli "LF it's probably obvious I like Ryan and have a lot of time for him, last season
n his role in the team seemed to involve linking the forwards with the backs, but I think Rangi will, do that this season, allowing Ryan to feed off Rangis passes and breaks,I still think Ryan is worth maybe 30 tries or more this season and therefore shouldn't be dropped,where does Riddy fit in?For me at Centre.'"


The point of having 3 halves is the ability to rotate them so they aren't knackered come the middle 8's like last season. No need to play them all every week

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Quote: Iggy79 "The point of having 3 halves is the ability to rotate them so they aren't knackered come the middle 8's like last season. No need to play them all every week'"


And what happens if one ends up injured,your back to two again.How many players needed ops last season! 8 was it? So whats wrong with moving Riddy to to give them a rest.

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Rangi and Ryan for me for what its worth.

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Quote: DemonUK "Rangi and Ryan for me for what its worth.'"

One of them as sub each week ,if the on pitch halves are not going well we can switch them around

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Quote: atomic "And what happens if one ends up injured,your back to two again.How many players needed ops last season! 8 was it? So whats wrong with moving Riddy to Centre to give them a rest.'"


To give who a rest? None of the halves are getting a rest if all 3 are playing. When pals and Tonga are back they should be rotated with Armstrong and worthington

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Quote: Iggy79 "To give who a rest? None of the halves are getting a rest if all 3 are playing. When pals and Tonga are back they should be rotated with Armstrong and worthington'"

Im from the old School ,you never heard of rotation in the owd days, rotation was for spuds and carrots,and turnips,these guys train all week they are fit and strong,you always play your strongest 17 unless someone is injured ,when we went on our record breaking run of victories there was no rotation.Last season when we had a nightmare in the 8's it wasn't down to lack of rotation, but we were outplayed.If a player plays well he gets a shirt,if he doesn't he's dropped.Charlie knows.I used to play every week ,sometimes 2 or 3 times a week, without feeling tired.Poker can be a very hard game at times. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: charlie caroli "Im from the old School ,you never heard of rotation in the owd days, rotation was for spuds and carrots,and turnips,these guys train all week they are fit and strong,you always play your strongest 17 unless someone is injured ,when we went on our record breaking run of victories there was no rotation.Last season when we had a nightmare in the 8's it wasn't down to lack of rotation, but we were outplayed.If a player plays well he gets a shirt,if he doesn't he's dropped.Charlie knows.I used to play every week ,sometimes 2 or 3 times a week, without feeling tired.Poker can be a very hard game at times.
It's no coincidence that we needed so many operations at the end of the season Ian. It makes sense to rotate if we have the squad, otherwise the players aren't ready to slot in if 1st choice players get injured. Even more important this season with more reserves.

I draw the line at putting ridy in the centres though!

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Quote: Iggy79 "It's no coincidence that we needed so many operations at the end of the season Ian. It makes sense to rotate if we have the squad, otherwise the players aren't ready to slot in if 1st choice players get injured. Even more important this season with more reserves.

I draw the line at putting ridy in the centres though!'"

Iggy,we have 3 halves who for me all have different strengths to their game,Rangi is a running ball player who can create gaps in the defensive line,Ryan is a support player who has the speed to finish off chances when they are created,he also has the skills to pass and link the forwards and backs, we're Riddy can create gaps with his deft passes and has a good kicking game.For me they can all play in the same 17,Rangi and Ryan's style would compliment each other,an example is a few years ago my mate from Wigan Andy Greg, played with Shaun Edwards ,Andy style is similar to Rangis and Shaun style is very similar to Ryan's, Shaun fed off Andy passes ,and scored loads of tries, also in the line up was Dean Bell ,a guy with a similar style to Riddy , playing at centre, it worked a treat for Wigan then , maybe worth a try for us now?
We have a class pack of forwards,when Cory Patterson is fit he has a skilled pair of hands, in the Harry Pinner mold,I'm really excited at the potential line up we could field,when the drier grounds arrive we will be frightening.
Batleys ground on Sunday didn't suit our style sloping narrow pitch,and when Rangi dropped that high ball it was nearly Dark icon_eek.gif .I'm sure we will recover and start to rip teams apart, hopefully starting on Sunday, I'm tipping a Leigh win by at least 40 points maybe more.

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Quote: charlie caroli "So would you drop Ryan?'"

I would. Don't see the point in having competition for places if we're just going to shoehorn the 3rd half back in out of position. Think at the moment Ridy & Rangi have been playing better.
Quote: charlie caroli "I don't think Ryan EVER goes missing. In some games he tries a little too hard and becomes less effective.Sunday was one such game. '"

Perhaps "goes missing" is a bit harsh but he can become inconsistent at times, now there's competition for his place that has to count against him.
Quote: charlie caroli "And what happens if one ends up injured,your back to two again.How many players needed ops last season! 8 was it? So whats wrong with moving Riddy to Centre to give them a rest.'"

Because Ridy isn't a centre, that's what's wrong with it. He doesn't have the power to make breaks nor the strength for the defensive work centres have to do. It's no rest for him to move him out to centre

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Quote: frank1 "
Frank ...

your usually very good on here, but come on .....

Rangi or RYAN at Centre icon_lol.gif

Centres are usually around 6ft tall & between 14 1/2 & 16 stone weight, neither of those two fit the bill.
Anyway, both are playmakers, 6's or 7's & will never be anything else, which is a good thing as both are quality in the halves.

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Quote: Snowy "
Brierley - In an attacking sense, he would be my full back all day of the week. Defensively / all round, I would put Liam Kay there

Chase - Wasted at FB and either a 6 or possibly a 9, for whom he would be devastating at the PTB.

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Quote: Lowton_Sparrow "
Because Ridy isn't a centre, that's what's wrong with it. He doesn't have the power to make breaks nor the strength for the defensive work centres have to do. It's no rest for him to move him out to centre'"


And Rangi isn't a fullback,but these options need to be tried.Its all well and good rotating players but the strategy/game plan doesn't change.We need to create other strategies before the 8's or they will all be outplaying us again.

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