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| Quote: charlie caroli "Dave Armistead was seen at the LSV this afternoon.'"
Thank God it wasn't Dave Armitstead
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| Quote: Alan "Very true! Personally, of all the players 'released'/leaving, I reckon he will be one of those who find it easiest to get a new SL club.'"
Wakey looking favourite.Who replaces Hoppy.Lee Mossop?
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| Sorry to see him go, would have been an ideal player to help in our fight for Promotion next season.
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| Quote: JENKY "Sorry to see him go, would have been an ideal player to help in our fight for Promotion next season.'"
He was on my keeper list but more for his potential to be dominant at Champ level than SL. I was dissapointed overall last season. I expected big minutes and strong performances, neither really materialised. I still think he is SL quality but needs to step it up.
Good luck to him and to all who are leaving.
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| Quote: Vancouver Leyther "He was on my keeper list but more for his potential to be dominant at Champ level than SL. I was dissapointed overall last season. I expected big minutes and strong performances, neither really materialised. I still think he is SL quality but needs to step it up.
Good luck to him and to all who are leaving.'"
Any chance I can have your keeper list VL..
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| Quote: Vancouver Leyther "It’s actually exists in the early pages of the Ins and Outs thread. Just a personal take on who I would want to keep, or not.
A quick read shows why I’m a supporter and not a coach etc.
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| Hoppy has been a good impact player at the best in my opinion.
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| Quote: Alan "Back on topic, I'll be sad to see Sam go. He's a good player, capable of being even better - however, I guess we are not all privy to what goes on at the club.'"
That's what I wanted to say
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Here's a very interesting article about Kevin Larroyer who found himself in a very similar situation to Sam's. I think clubs have a duty of care to these players and should make it clear to them that if they lose the million pound game they won't be required so they should at least find themselves an agent and put their names around. It just seems cruel and unnecessary.
www.totalrl.com/rugby-league-wor ... nightmare/
I have no doubts whatsoever that Sam will find himself a new club but it must be a shock to the system, especially when you've recently signed a new contract.
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Here's a very interesting article about Kevin Larroyer who found himself in a very similar situation to Sam's. I think clubs have a duty of care to these players and should make it clear to them that if they lose the million pound game they won't be required so they should at least find themselves an agent and put their names around. It just seems cruel and unnecessary.
www.totalrl.com/rugby-league-wor ... nightmare/
I have no doubts whatsoever that Sam will find himself a new club but it must be a shock to the system, especially when you've recently signed a new contract.
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| wasn't Sam offered a Championship contract??
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| I did say 'similar' - and this isn't a pop at Leigh or any other particular club. I'm just saying clubs in general should make it clear to all the players beforehand, how they see their future at the club in each scenario.
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| Quote: mish "Here's a very interesting article about Kevin Larroyer who found himself in a very similar situation to Sam's. I think clubs have a duty of care to these players and should make it clear to them that if they lose the million pound game they won't be required so they should at least find themselves an agent and put their names around. It just seems cruel and unnecessary.
It's a difficult one, because telling players they're out if we lose so start looking elsewhere isn't the best preparation for such a massive match.
Players need to be getting better advice, it's naive to not realise contracts are voided after relegation, everybody knows that rule. Completing on a new house 2 days before such a game isn't the brightest idea. Similarly, Hopkins would have known there was a danger that the contract wouldn't be renewed in the championship.
I don't think the issue here is with the club, they have to do what they think is right for the club, the issue is this rule that all contracts are null and void which is losing all stability for players and club. Its a rule designed to save clubs from themselves but is actually having the opposite effect. I wonder if he'd have been offered a new deal this year if such a rule wasn't in place?
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| Quote: mish "I did say 'similar' - and this isn't a pop at Leigh or any other particular club. I'm just saying clubs in general should make it clear to all the players beforehand, how they see their future at the club in each scenario.'"
Players know SL contracts are void if relegated, after may1st any player out of contract can seek alternative employers for the following season, you can't wipe the heir s as well. Common sense says if wanted they will be offered a contract, or vice versa.
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| Quote: LeythIg "
It's a difficult one, because telling players they're out if we lose so start looking elsewhere isn't the best preparation for such a massive match.
Players need to be getting better advice, it's naive to not realise contracts are voided after relegation, everybody knows that rule. Completing on a new house 2 days before such a game isn't the brightest idea. Similarly, Hopkins would have known there was a danger that the contract wouldn't be renewed in the championship.
I don't think the issue here is with the club, they have to do what they think is right for the club, the issue is this rule that all contracts are null and void which is losing all stability for players and club. Its a rule designed to save clubs from themselves but is actually having the opposite effect. I wonder if he'd have been offered a new deal this year if such a rule wasn't in place?'"
I've always been of the opinion that players should just have to deal with it and they know the consequences should they under perform etc but there's got to be a better way to help them - I mean, we all know how long it takes to complete on a house, how was he to know at the time of getting his mortgage that he would be in that situation by the time he was ready to complete? How are players meant to get mortgages and plan for the future if they don't know what next year will bring despite having contracts for x number of years (and more importantly, maybe banks will eventually stop giving mortgages to RL players because of this uncertainty?).
I don't know the answers but I wish there was another way.
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