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Stii sixth- might finish fifth! (Goodbye Derek??)

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Quote: mattwom "Stii sixth- might finish fifth! (Goodbye Derek??)'"

Why goodbye Derek?I think he will stay ,out of all the Club's in the Championship,we have the best ground, best facilities ,best crowds,the reason we finished where we are , keeping Jukesy on to long,if we had got shut after the Barrow away game things would have been different.

What we need now is get shut of the average and below average players,the table doesn't lie, we have the worst attack and defence in the top 6, last week we made a poor Rochdale look good , today Swinton scored 24 points away from home that doesn't happen very often,we have a powder puff defence,drop to many balls,and have no kicking game whatsoever.

We let 2 form halves in SL go, didn't even play one of them at halve last season,all reasons for being where we now find ourselves.My prediction is Derek will stay, but some tough decisions have to made by him,especially on the field.The next 8 games will reveal a painful lesson in crowds and atmosphere,hopefully Derek will know most are his mistakes mainly in recruitment, and stay and put things right.

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Quote: charlie caroli "Why goodbye Derek?I think he will stay ,out of all the Club's in the Championship,we have the best ground, best facilities ,best crowds,the reason we finished where we are , keeping Jukesy on to long,if we had got shut after the Barrow away game things would have been different.

What we need now is get shut of the average and below average players,the table doesn't lie, we have the worst attack and defence in the top 6, last week we made a poor Rochdale look good , today Swinton scored 24 points away from home that doesn't happen very often,we have a powder puff defence,drop to many balls,and have no kicking game whatsoever.

We let 2 form halves in SL go, didn't even play one of them at halve last season,all reasons for being where we now find ourselves.My prediction is Derek will stay, but some tough decisions have to made by him,especially on the field.The next 8 games will reveal a painful lesson in crowds and atmosphere,hopefully Derek will know most are his mistakes mainly in recruitment, and stay and put things right.'"


Wise words Charlie.
2 big decisions for DB off the field.
If this is the team that KC built (and we were told it was) then he needs to go.
If KP is the main man (he gets my vote) then he needs to be given the ability to select his own backroom staff (after KC goes) and have the final say on each and every player.
We may not have the overall total funding that we had this year but smart player recruitment could still see us as a very good team if we are full time.

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Quote: Vancouver Leyther "Wise words Charlie.
2 big decisions for DB off the field.
If this is the team that KC built (and we were told it was) then he needs to go.
If KP is the main man (he gets my vote) then he needs to be given the ability to select his own backroom staff (after KC goes) and have the final say on each and every player.
We may not have the overall total funding that we had this year but smart player recruitment could still see us as a very good team if we are full time.'"


I don't think this season is over with VL, we still have the structure for 2019 to be unveiled.
I'm assuming criteria will have to be met for that. Given SL are in charge.

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To meet SL criteria would require development (reserves), stadia and being fulltime. None of the above presently carry all three requirements.

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Quote: atomic "I don't think this season is over with VL, we still have the structure for 2019 to be unveiled.
I'm assuming criteria will have to be met for that. Given SL are in charge.

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To meet SL criteria would require development (reserves), stadia and being fulltime. None of the above presently carry all three requirements.'"

Clutching at straws here, i'm afraid.

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Quote: joanne callotte "Clutching at straws here, i'm afraid.'"


I don't think I am Jo. 2022 will see two leagues of 10. But criteria for that will start in 2019 (14 teams in SL). But the two promoted will have to meet the minimum criteria. For the existing SL clubs, they will have until 2021 to conform to it. 2022 will see a 2 up 2 down P&R with clubs being given individual broadcasting rights. Whoever shows it will have to pay for it..

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Quote: "To meet SL criteria would require development (reserves), stadia and being fulltime. None of the above presently carry all three requirements.'"


London have a hugely successful youth programme thats paying dividends and are full time(we are tied in with Skolars for loaning players out so they could become the reserves potentially depending on criteria). Getting access to a stadium isn't a problem. You can 'book' them for match days ie Harlequins. You don't need to own a stadium, similar to the likes of Wigan, Huddersfield, Leigh, .......... Franchises would demand much more than those 3 criteria which is where London would fall down ie marketing and fans!

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Quote: Vancouver Leyther "Wise words Charlie.
2 big decisions for DB off the field.
If this is the team that KC built (and we were told it was) then he needs to go.
If KP is the main man (he gets my vote) then he needs to be given the ability to select his own backroom staff (after KC goes) and have the final say on each and every player.
We may not have the overall total funding that we had this year but smart player recruitment could still see us as a very good team if we are full time.'"


True, if we can find the money. There are certainly a lot of good players out there - many of whom seem to have performed well, against us this season!

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Quote: wire-quin "London have a hugely successful youth programme thats paying dividends and are full time(we are tied in with Skolars for loaning players out so they could become the reserves potentially depending on criteria). Getting access to a stadium isn't a problem. You can 'book' them for match days ie Harlequins. You don't need to own a stadium, similar to the likes of Wigan, Huddersfield, Leigh, .......... Franchises would demand much more than those 3 criteria which is where London would fall down ie marketing and fans!'"


Capacity and attendance comes under Stadia. No such thing as franchising.

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Quote: atomic "I don't think this season is over with VL, we still have the structure for 2019 to be unveiled.
I'm assuming criteria will have to be met for that. Given SL are in charge.

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To meet SL criteria would require development (reserves), stadia and being fulltime. None of the above presently carry all three requirements.'"

Atomic, I for one don't think you are clutching at straws,I was told something similar to your post this morning,and not by a rumour monger.

I still think and hope Derek stays though .

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Quote: atomic "I don't think this season is over with VL, we still have the structure for 2019 to be unveiled.
I'm assuming criteria will have to be met for that. Given SL are in charge.

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To meet SL criteria would require development (reserves), stadia and being fulltime. None of the above presently carry all three requirements.'"

What an embarrassing post. You haven’t been good enough on the field, so you want the RFL to change the rules to get you “promoted”

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "What an embarrassing post. You haven’t been good enough on the field, so you want the RFL to change the rules to get you “promoted”'"


When i read that, i had to look at the poster again. I thought it was Jean. icon_eek.gif I really did.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "What an embarrassing post. You haven’t been good enough on the field, so you want the RFL to change the rules to get you “promoted”'"


The standard of SL (the product) has to increase to support the game. The only way to enforce standards is via criteria. It has nothing to do with changing rules.

Surely you understand by the Super 8's being abolished the next step would be criteria. Some may even say its a safeguard to protect Leeds.

I'm not that small minded so I will stick with standards being enforced.

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Quote: atomic "

Surely you understand by the Super 8's being abolished the next step would be criteria. Some may even say its a safeguard to protect Leeds.
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However, Leeds support the middle 8's, something Hetherington has made crystal clear.

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Quote: joanne callotte "However, Leeds support the middle 8's, something Hetherington has made crystal clear.'"


Very true Jo. But I don't think even GH would support his own team being relegated or a possibility of it happening. They are SL and regardless of opinions will always stick together.

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