He walked away in 2005

He will walk away & blame it on the fans . The thing is he'll blame the fans that boo & dont have i love derek tattoos on there s & they will belieghve him lol . When alot of this is his own doings trying be there best buddys etc giving them a holiday when they beat wigan . Total amatures running the show the list is endless

If he pulls the plug,will there be another in waiting? Or does that not concern you?

A name to me has been mentioned,but it can't be repeated on here at this stage.

Same here cokey

Yes it does concern me that we could be left high & dry by him . The bit about the fan having a pop is terrible no one should have to deal with that.but derek does bring things on himself, seems to beable to give it but not take it . Roll your sleeves up derek and show us what your made of .. i fear we'll slip in it .

I think we've replaced the majority with better, but there'll always be some players come back to haunt a club.

The descision to offload Ridyard was a horror show however. Loaned out for a month with some BS about how he needs to prove his fitness. Proves his fitness and the loan is extended to the end of the season. After performing in SL, we then cannot get him to stay, probably for same reasons he played for Hudds last season and almost played for Wakefield the year before. We quite clearly didn't replace him with better, losing overseas spot and a proven half back. Put Ridyard in our team yesterday, and we win comfortably.

I couldn't resist a word on this topic, Riddy! I have been a big admirer of Riddy since the first time I saw him play for Leigh. Over the years I have said what a talented player he is and of his importance to Leigh. It had always been obvious to me how, our (rare) performances without him on the field, contrasted to him playing! When he didn't play, we were like the proverbial ship without a Rudder! Someone on this Forum once suggested, I was Riddy's father

I'll leave that honour to Alf


I wonder if those critics were watching yesterday?

Ive been shocked at some fans as soon as hes gone he wasnt good enough lol .. its ok we have some aussies in oh they must be better than riddy then . We have no one of his class in our club and thats a fact

On paper the team looks pretty good. However, I'm not sure the current lot are better man for man in this specific environment -- at present. The recently disbanded and previous culture seemed to attract, unite and inspire new players into performing for the fans. That is disappearing fast, and apart from bringing Higham back to hold onto to some of that, the newbies are almost working from a blank canvas.

Reynolds vs Ridyard. Richards vs Hopkins. Owens vs McNally. I don't see improvements and how is Cunningham Junior even considered at this level? Surely needs to cut his teeth in League 1 before performing in a team aiming for SL promotion. Would he have got 1 minute game time in the 2016 team?

And Mortimer reportedly out for another 10 weeks. Reynolds injured and not meeting expectations. Do we need to make some tough decisons / improvements ASAP before the season is written off? Summer Bash is approaching fast and the thought of Reni Maitua rubbing it in as well should be enough motivation!

This team needed some changes and needed to get younger overall.
But Riddy (and a few others) shouldn’t even have been anywhere close to that equation.
Mickey Higham should have been given another year and started this season. Greg McNally should still be here. Those 3 alone would have made a difference in the results so far.
We need a recognized, proven quality standoff, right now !!!!
Gloves off Derek. Get him by hook or by crook, or wave goodbye to the middle 8s, never mind promotion.

Craig Hall is a better FB than McNally for mine, Peter M'atautia has been excellent and is SL class. I would rather have Bodene Thompson than Glenn Stewart. I would actually have Hutchison than Drinkwater, who will become a real asset for us IMO. We are not losing anything by replacing Higson with Evans personally. I take the point about Ridyard, especially in this division.

It is an issue that so many changes have all been made in one go without any continuity and questions do need to be asked about the merits of that decision.

This is a side now extremely low on confidence and it is difficult. A new team that in all 7 games played have only experienced winning once. Sadly losing is habit forming but break it we must and break it we will. We have to.

We desperately need a quality 6 in there to help Hutchison, short term I am inclined to place Hall there and I do think we need another grunt.

Derek is under pressure like any of the boys as it is a real challenge to now secure top 4, and let's be honest if we don't hit it there is no real point in anyone committing £60k of your own money each and every month. Pointless. However no one is throwing the towel in yet as far as I can see.