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We just got out muscled, that's all, lessons will be learned from coaches and players

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Quote: JENKY "Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?

Wasn't too bad a game although inevitably 5 drives and a kick was more provalent than if we'd had a dry day.
Thought one bit of individual class deserved to win it for Widnes in a match that was nip and tuck.

Players gave it everything but came up short.'"


Higson dropped on the loose ball over our line, making it 'dead'. Ah Van appeared to slide in with the knees, hitting Higson square in the head. However, the ref and two officials were much nearer than I was! icon_wink.gif After speaking to the captains, Thaler had a word with Ah Van. No doubt the review panel will sort it all.

To put things in balance, I thought one or two of our guys seemed to get away with high shots - I hope they aren't sorted out by the review panel too! icon_sad.gif

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McNally and Brierley were left prostrate on the ground following late shots , I don’t recall any Vikings suffering the same ?

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I think the bottom line is we had the ‘tools’ on the pitch to have got a result however, they were overshadowed in creative and execution aspects of the game, for what it’s worth I personally thought we would struggle as we need squander far two many chances on a weekly basis, just has have done all season! Of course it’s disappointing and I feel for those have yet to see our Club at Wembley however keep the faith and your chance will come !

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Quote: JENKY "Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?

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Watched it on TV and to be honest there was nothing in the challenge, the Widnes player went to complete the tackle which he was entitled to do and his arm went over the shoulder of the Leigh player which Im sure from some angles made it look a bad tackle. If anything the penalty was only given because of the players having handbags afterwards and the commentators seemed to agree. The one where Brierley went down, Pryce called him out for milking it, it was simply a push that at very worst was a fraction late, and the Leigh player milking it for the penalty.

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Thank goodness for the Review Panel whose ‘expertise ‘ will be able to settle any difference of opinion that exists !

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Quote: JENKY "Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?'"


It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.

What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?

(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).

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[b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein[/size:112mouem] [/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein[/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem] [b:112mouem][color=#0000FF:112mouem][size=100:112mouem] "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln [/size:112mouem][/color:112mouem][/b:112mouem]:13050.gif



Quote: 71leyther "It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.

What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?

(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"


The replay after the incident shows what happened, contact is with Higson's left arm. There is no contact with the throat whatsoever. The commentators get it just about bang on.

If you pause it on contact you can see that Higson's injury probably occurs as it ends up as a bit of an accidental crusher tackle where higson's head is stuck between the widnes players body and his right arm. At full speed that is a total accident and didn't warrant the reaction it got from the Leigh players.

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Quote: 71leyther "It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.

What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?

(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"


I suggest you take your spectacles next time, Higson was hit on the arm, anything after was accidental.

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Quote: 71leyther "It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.

What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?

(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"


No problem '71leyther'.I was near the middle of the West stand, and my eyesight is bad enough without drizzle on me specs. Let's see what the review panel come up with, and settle for that. Like I said, there were plenty of 'robust' challenges from both sides, for the panel to look at! icon_wink.gif

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I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.

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Quote: LeythIg "I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.'"


Late in what sense?

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I didn't think there was much in the higson incident watching it on tv,looked like it was the widnes players hip that caught his head but very surprised thaler didn't sin bin anyone from widnes for dissent.3 free kick on the bounce for dissent but he soon sent off Brooks when he last reffed us

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Late in what sense?'"


Opposite of early icon_wink.gif

Watching live (can't bring myself to watch again), it looked like it was grounded before the challenge came in, and wasn't really any attempt at doing anything bar ground the ball, so didn't really need the flop.

If it had been the other way around, I'd have been annoyed at the player for turning a forced GLDO into a conceded penalty.

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Quote: LeythIg "Opposite of early
The player only has a split second to make that decision and Im sure for certain he could not see a clear attempt to ground the ball. I think he is more than entitled to make that tackle and has to play to the whistle.

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