While you are correct to a degree Graham , it is pointless worrying about things you have no control over , all you can do is do your best to expoit what you do have some control over , I'm sure at some point in your business life you were in a similar position , did you give up , or did you find the solution ?

I suggested a very similar idea to the club 3 years ago

but now you can't be @rsed with Leigh Centurions...apparently !!!
Bless.

The state of 'Leigh Centurions' or Rugby League in general.
I know you have been 'involved' with Leigh in the past, obviously you were 'more than a fan'back then, but if Leigh were in Championship One, I still couldn't miss any home games......though my away support has virtually disappeared.
Sorry if i appeared a little 'bitchy'.

Everybody is entitled to the odd ' Bitch ' on here every now and then , I probably overdo my share at the moment , so I will as I said leave it after tonight

Think the Pies do it slightly different my MD said something about their season tickets had a £30 voucher for up to 6 tickets for last Friday's game.

Not to sure in our division we could identify what could be classed as 'smaller' crowds.

Both , the RFL have removed the excitement on the pitch [ which has also deadened the atmosphere at the big games , did anybody really care when we lost in the play offs ? ]

And the club , because I just dont see where they are going off the field other than backwards , a sure sign of insanity is when you keep doing the same things and expect a different result , the more you behave like a charity the more you will become one , when they are convincing themselves that a ' strap line ' on a banner will get them into SL [ especially a banner that only the ' converted ' can see ] and that they have a business plan outlining a way they can be competitive in SL on attendances of 3,500 , when everybody else has stated publically that they all need 10,000 fans through the gates to achieve the same

At the risk of repeating myself, staying in the Championship is the only way we can survive.

The lack of P&R may have harmed our crowds, but if we got promoted then we'd be bankrupt before the end of a season.

Starbug, without meaning to open a can of worms can I ask what (if anything) would reconcile your problems with the club? Just wondering out of interest.

Its probably too late now , and as has been suggested , the RFL have foooked it up now as far as it feeling like it actually matters , we are closing in on the point of no return where it wont be recoverable

Bloody hell I sound depressing

I really dont think that will be a problem Nik , the problem is if we continue as we are then it is survival , but in a coma on life support

As we have seen, things have devoloped in the championship this season in terrible way, so i'd say its massively important this club gets out of it as soon as possible.
The alternative to a large number of existing fans is totally unacceptable and i find it difficult to believe new fans will be brought in to compensate

I am not, nor have I ever been a Leigh fan, though I have good friends who have been.

My interest is personal as my son is loaned to Leigh at present. But I have to say that the negativity on this forum is depressing.

Promotion and relegation stopped 5 years ago and people are continuing to whinge about it. WHY? Leeds have been Super League champions for the last two years and I don't hear them complaining about not being promoted!

The fact of the matter is that if there had been p&r, Leigh would not have been promoted. And thank your stars for that, because with tenuous finances, it may have been the final straw in the club's existence. Salford got away by the skin of their teeth. Is there any guarantee that Leigh could have been so lucky?

Winning the competitions you are in should be the club and the fans' aim and it strikes me that there are one or two other clubs who may have more than a little say in that! If you were running away with the league year after year, the p&r whingers might have a case. But you're not!

Without wishing to put too much of a dampener on it, what will happen if Leigh are successful in their bid for Super League? From where will the money come to fund it? Will more "fans" really turn up to watch the inevitable weekly disappointment in the first season, with the odd few exceptions? I doubt that they would.

If fans can't be bothered to turn up to watch a team who win most of their matches, I don't think would come for frequent defeats.

So far as the recent plea for finances is concerned, I, personally, think that the club have got it wrong. Bradford proved many years go (then forgot) that if a club puts on a variety of entertainment prior to and after a match, even the only partially interested will give it a go. Also, the request for fans to ask their employers for money is little more than begging. How about offering local companies hospitality days. Tables of ten, meal, ticket, programme and parking for £2500. The companies know that it is overpriced, but are still more likely to go for something from which they get some return, rather than just being expected to open their hard pressed cheque books. Rob Parker should be concentrating on doing just that, in my opinion.

Rugby League has been my passion for many years. But I have no team, except whoever plays Wigan on the day, and more importantly, the team with which my son plays. Despite the frequent tampering with the rules, I would sooner watch RL than any other game and encourage anybody I speak with to do the same.