FORUMS > Leigh Leopards > No More Professional RL in Blackpool |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 16601 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dico "So you disagree with how the Scorpions are going?
That's ridiculously insular if so.'"
My blueprint is simple 20 clubs in SL, 2x10. 2 french and 2 welsh are needed, but if that is a no go then we must vote as the other turkeys have voted and that is insular. We need to toughen up and not be dumped on if we are to change/influence the rfl's agenda ie if we refused to accept the Scorpions into the Championship of 16 clubs they would be either fast tracked to SL or go bump, so if they wish to do a CC then fast track them, if they wish the club to grow organically then the championship clubs use some leverage.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6268 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| We wouldnt find 20 clubs in the Short term.
2 conferences of 8/9 East v West, we solve almost every problem including the players playing too many games line.
Until then reunite the Chps at 16 clubs
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dico "I dont think so tbh.
The most important level that needs sorting, imo, is the level under C1.
Have is so ALL amateur teams in the country play to the same system, and have a north south divide or even east and west too and you have a national amateur champion. The elite winners of these seasons could apply to join the semi pro ranks. Not entirely sure how it would work, it's best left to better brains than mine but i'd send Gateshead, Skolars down there too, they could even pay players expenses if they wanted and have one national amateur competition where the region winners compete in the final, who can then apply to join the pro ranks. I think you'd get one or two teams finding their way to the top and professional status could be looked at.'"
Quite possibly , maybe clubs like
Warrington Wizards
Leigh East
Bramley
Huddersfield Underbank
Siddall
East hull
, Can you see a ' trend ' developing here , that might be a problem for some ?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 16601 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The 14 consists of South France Aussies and we have North Wales Aussies. Add Toulouse, Leigh, Fax, Widnes, Fev and Barrow for your 20. Drop Cas, Wakey, Salford and HKR into the 6 and you have a gap that is breachable in year 1, as long as you know in April/May at latest.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6268 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Starbug "Quite possibly , maybe clubs like
Warrington Wizards
Leigh East
Bramley
Huddersfield Underbank
Siddall
East hull
I agree Starbug, completely.
If that's the case then so be it.
We keep hearing there's great amateur links around the country, if so then these areas will beat those sides.
If Bramley draw bigger support than Hunslet then they replace or add to the Chp. For me the Chp would also be franchised and so this club would have to show they could really add something to the league. They could be promoted at any time and any club winning the national title would have the right to apply.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 16601 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2024 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| You are Col Saunders and I claim my £5
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dico "I agree Starbug, completely.
If that's the case then so be it.
We keep hearing there's great amateur links around the country, if so then these areas will beat those sides.
If Bramley draw bigger support than Hunslet then they replace or add to the Chp. For me the Chp would also be franchised and so this club would have to show they could really add something to the league. They could be promoted at any time and any club winning the national title would have the right to apply.'"
What has that got to do with anything ?
This is what you posted
Quote: Dico "have one national amateur competition where the region winners compete in the final, who can then apply to join the pro ranks'"
Winners , ie ' on the pitch '
In the final , who get there by being the best ' on the pitch '
We already have two ' national ' amatuer comps , and as far as I can remember , heartland clubs have contested all the recent relative finals
It doesn't work , only one thing will expand the game at pro/semipro level , money , money provided and administrated by the governing body and its member clubs
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6268 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Ahh I said the winners could apply to join what would be a franchised Chp.
They would have to show that they could be sustainable at that level which is why I brought crowds into it old boy.
We dont want two national conferences we want regional comps with national finals.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8642 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2012 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dico "I agree Starbug, completely.
If that's the case then so be it.
We keep hearing there's great amateur links around the country, if so then these areas will beat those sides.
If Bramley draw bigger support than Hunslet then they replace or add to the Chp. For me the Chp would also be franchised and so this club would have to show they could really add something to the league. They could be promoted at any time and any club winning the national title would have the right to apply.'"
But franchising is not working and is an anathaema to the UK sporting public at whatever sport.
Pro RL is in a hole and franchising the Championship would make that hole bigger. The bigger the hole the more difficulty in getting out.
Why not introduce franchising to footie ? Why no European League instead of a European footie cup comp ?
Why are Blackpool FC or Wigan or Bolton in the premiership ? Would they be if the FA had introduced franchising ? And would footie be better or worse with franchising do you think ? Ask a footie fan.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Dico "Ahh I said the winners could apply to join what would be a franchised Chp.
They would have to show that they could be sustainable at that level which is why I brought crowds into it old boy.
We dont want two national conferences we want regional comps with national finals.'"
So you are suggesting that a club playing in a totally inferior competition could qualify to apply for the Championships by winning one match ?
How do you judge ' sustainable ' when a club is at amatuer level ? ie it is not actually paying its players or charging very much if anything for admission ?
This club then has to jump to paying a squad of players and then suddenly all the other associated costs
Think again , the jump from amatuer to a single Championship is bigger than a jump from the Championship to SL
We need more clubs at semi pro level so you can run two tiers which then flattens out the hill between amatuer and SL
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6268 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2015 | Jul 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Starbug "So you are suggesting that a club playing in a totally inferior competition could qualify to apply for the Championships by winning one match ?
Well.. yes, if they won through the finals series. If they were so inferior they wouldnt win. period.
How do you judge ' sustainable ' when a club is at amatuer level ? ie it is not actually paying its players or charging very much if anything for admission ?
Its a bit of guesswork but its easier than throwing a new area into SL, as you said in other places with that money you could set up 4 or 5 semi pro clubs
This club then has to jump to paying a squad of players and then suddenly all the other associated costs
Well yes, they could even pay players 'expenses' in the national championships if they wanted, with an aim to moving up in future. The pressure wouldnt be on them to do a Blackpool though at this level
Think again , the jump from amatuer to a single Championship is bigger than a jump from the Championship to SL
You think so? I cant say I know the ins and outs
We need more clubs at semi pro level so you can run two tiers which then flattens out the hill between amatuer and SL
I agree and I propose this is how we go about it. It may work, it might well not but things are dying on their ar$e at the moment'"
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 13026 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: frankb "
Almost 2000 years ago Emperor Claudius banned monopolies and why do you think he did that ?'"
Well I thought it was well known that Claudius was more of a Cluedo man.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8642 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2012 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Baffled. I just cannot understand Cluedo though'anymore than I can Monopoly.Is it buy buy buy and you can't lose ? A touch better than Bingo ? Or a raffle ?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 13026 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Feb 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Well it does help being an academic in cluedo, just keep away from the study when the clergy are about.....
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 33944 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: frankb "
Almost 2000 years ago Emperor Claudius banned monopolies and why do you think he did that ?'"
Was it because somebody nicked the ' Boot ' and that was his favourite ?
|
|
|
|
|
|