Why is Leigh the only sensible alternative? If it's just to make up the numbers why not draw out of hat?

Glow

I think we are getting bogged down in semantics here. Whether its automatic or not, many of us believe that the best solution all around is for Leigh to stay in or be asked to take a place in the Championship. We are of course very biased!

Even if you argue that we were relegated fair and square and deserved to go down, how you can compare us to Oldham (who are on the verge of going bankrupt themselves) is very odd indeed. I honestly cannot see anyone coming close to us.

Having said that I think the RFL will plump for 2 divisions of 10 and shaft us again..

We was higher placed than teams below us - I think that helps. We also played a high calibre of opposition. Would also heal some wounds if we was stay up with RFL, and I doubt even opposition fans would be that against it considering our points tally etc.

I do have to say tho I am impressed with Mr Rowley this time round. The club seem to be accepting relegation with a lot of dignity in the public domain.

Well if for no other reason we finished last season winning 9 and losing 11.

I was at both Grand Finals or all 3 if you count the one I,m not currently bothered about.

We would have annialated both Oldham and Keighley even with our worst possible line out from last season.

We got relegated and deservedly so. What everyone else does to stay up is up to them (or the RFL) We have to move on and learn from last season.

You are making really hard work of this Glow!
OK here are some reasons:

1) We have one of the top 3 grounds outside SL and better than some in SL
2) We have a SL coach
3) We have a fanbase that is really second only to Widnes outside SL, and better than 2 or 3 in SL (we are easily in the top 5 of Champ for starters)
4) We have a good youth set-up with players coming through, far better than most outside SL and a few SL clubs
5) On the pitch we are, I submit, better than any of the Champ 1 sides based on the number of points we got last season, plus the players we have signed.

None of the above should come as news to anyone which is why I have not bothered listing them all before. But you just will not let this drop! If you an come up with some better yardsticks then please feel free.

Do u know when someone has a go at my team I can get quite defensive,

You are a true gent.

As a Thunder fan I obviously have a biased view on this also. We are hearing nothing from Thunder (not that we are surprised at that) and glean most of our info from the other boards.

There has been much said about Thunder cheating etc and who should have been relegated and who shouldn't but that is by the by now. It is obvious that we relied too heavily on one person for funding and have paid the ultimate price.

If Thunder are to drop to the Championship 1 then I think the obvious way to do that is to deduct the 9 points this year which would leave us second bottom, then it would not matter where Toulouse finished and your good selves would be saved and could spend your millions freely ( )

As for Thunder,,,, I have a very pessimistic view. I have watched them since 1999 and lived through the dark days and the slightly lighter days! A drop to Champ 1 and playing with local players and amateurs will, as far as I am concerned, result in heavy defeats and dwindling crowds and the slow death of my team (I realise that many around the RL world won't shed a tear over that). My view is that it may be better to die with some dignity now and concentrate on the amateur game in the NE and, if possible, build from there.

But we shall see

No we wouldNT be happy for any team to go bust and fold, all we want is to be all playing to the same set of rules, and the RFL CANT SEEM TO GET THEIR HEADS AROUND THAT.